Every year my dear friend Sacha Jones comes back on the podcast around my birthday for a conversation. She is one of the most creative, wise, and gentle people I know and I always love speaking with her. Our annual catch-ups end up being time capsules of what we've learned the past year both from the podcast and from what's happened around us. Like most people, Sacha and I both had a wild year personally and collectively so we unpack the ways we've changed. We cover grief, loss, closure, and leaving new york, but it's not all heavy! We also talk about Sacha getting her photo taken by Bill Cunningham while riding her bike, and more.

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