In part two of Ben’s conversation with Dr Luke Beardon, they move from language and identity into the systems shaping autistic lives - classrooms, healthcare, and even the criminal justice system. 

With over 30 years’ experience in autism education, Luke breaks down why inclusivity isn’t a “nice extra” but the foundation of genuine support, and why a one-size-fits-all approach consistently fails autistic people.

Luke shares his top three tips for supporting neurodivergent children in school, explores how the UK’s autism training compares globally, and offers a candid look at how medical and justice systems misunderstand autistic communication and behaviour.

This episode reframes what meaningful inclusion really looks like. If you’ve ever felt misunderstood, misinterpreted, or pushed to fit into systems that don’t fit you or your brain, this conversation will help you make sense of it and remind you that the problem was never you.

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Host: Ben Branson

Production Manager: Phoebe De Leiburné

Video Editor: James Scriven

Social Media Manager: Charlie Young

Music: Jackson Greenberg

Head of Marketing: Kristen Fuller

00:00 Introduction

1:00 How Dr Luke Beardon Approaches Autism & Education: Why Inclusivity Matters

8:43 Understanding Life Through the Autistic Lens VS “One Size Fits All” Support

10:00 Dr Luke’s Top 3 Tips for Supporting Neurodivergent Children in School

17:42 Neurodiversity History: Educating the Education System

19:55 Autism Training in the UK: What Medical Professionals Are (Not) Taught

27:57 How the UK’s Autism Understanding Compares to Other Countries

29:13 Autism & the Criminal Justice System: What Needs to Change

36:52 The One Belief Luke Would Change About Autism in Society

37:24 Luke’s Green Dot Badge

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