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In this episode of the Forever Fit Podcast, I sit down with Ariel Garten, co-founder of Muse and a pioneer in consumer brain-sensing technology, to explore the growing importance of mental fitness. Ariel shares her journey from studying neuroscience to building one of the world’s leading EEG-based meditation and brain-training devices. We talk about how Muse helps people manage stress, improve sleep, sharpen focus, and even support recovery after brain injuries. I also share how using Muse personally helped me through a high-stress period and deepened my understanding of consistent mental training. This conversation is all about the future of brain health and practical tools anyone can use to build resilience, clarity, and long-term well-being.

00:00 Why Mental Fitness Matters & Meet Ariel Garten

03:39 Ariel’s Journey from Neuroscience to Building Muse

16:17 Understanding Brainwaves and How Brain Training Works

21:30 Using Muse to Reduce Stress and Build Mental Resilience

33:59 Brain Health, Longevity, and Everyday Performance

44:03 Social Media, Focus, and Protecting Your Mental Health

48:02 How Muse Improves Sleep and Recovery

56:11 Brain Injury Recovery and Advanced Applications

01:07:25 Lessons for Founders and Final Thoughts

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My name is Maxime Sigouin, and I'm the founder of Mavy Wellness a company that has helped over 1,100 + whole food plant-based enthusiast over 50 transform their body composition and strengthen their bones while building lean muscle..

After losing my grandfather and ex-fiancée to breast cancer, I've embarked on this mission to help 10,000 people get lean, thrive, and disease-proof their bodies on plants by 2033 and 1 million by 2050.