“There's polarity in the beauty industry, but nothing's black and white. I can almost always see the other person's side of the story," says beauty journalist and co-host of Fat Mascara Jennifer G. Sullivan. In this episode of Clean Beauty School, mindbodygreen beauty director and host Alexandra Engler chats with Sullivan about the many gray areas of the modern beauty industry. Plus, why the pillars of her beauty routine are good health, exercise, and injectables. 

Show notes:

-Follow Jennifer G. Sullivan and Fat Mascara

-Follow along with Jenn’s writing, including the Allure piece “The Latest Advancements In Natural Beauty”

-Read Jenn’s new column on The Cut, Ask A Beauty Editor

-What to know about talc and asbestos

-Learn about the preservative triclosan  

-Read more about topics mentioned in this episode from mindbodygreen: the false narrative of natural vs sustainable ingredients, essential oils, collagen supplements, gray hair care, olive oil for skin, new wave of sunscreens, benefits of hiking, CBD for skin, forest bathing.

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“Your hair is your most important accessory: You wear it everyday. Think about your favorite piece of clothing—if you wear it daily, wash it, don’t care for it, it’s going to break down,” says celebrity colorist Justin Anderson, co-founder of hair and color care brand dpHUE. In this episode of Clean Beauty School, mbg beauty director and host Alexandra Engler chats with Anderson about hair color trends, how to identify your most natural color, finding a colorist you trust, and at-home color maintenance tips. Plus, we get into how often you should actually be washing your hair. 

Show notes:

-Use code is Justin15 for 15% off your order on dpHUE.com for a limited time. 

-Follow @justinanderson, @justinandersoncolor & dpHUE

-Read more about topics mentioned in this episode: At-home color, root touch up, hair toners, hair glosses, purple shampoo, apple cider vinegar hair rinse, apple cider vinegar hair benefits, apple cider vinegar health benefits, hair rinses, shampoo schedule, hair oils, keloid scars, LED masks, hot yoga, breath-work benefits.

-Shop products mentioned in this episode: dpHUE Apple Cider Vinegar Hair Rinse, Apple Cider Vinegar Hair Masque, Color Fresh Hair Oil, Cool Blonde Shampoo, Cool Blonde Conditioner, Cool Brunette Shampoo, Cool Brunette Conditioner, Gloss+, Brightening Powder, Styling collection, Dr. Dennis Gross DRx SpectraLite™ FaceWare Pro, Alpha Beta Universal Daily Peel, Naturium

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“It’s positioned as empowering for the consumer to ‘do their research’ on ingredient lists, but I actually think it ends up being disempowering. You need an advanced degree in chemistry to keep up with the ingredients, formulas, and latest research. How can we expect the average consumer to do that?” says Jaleh Bisharat, founder of beauty e-retailer NakedPoppy. “And unfortunately there’s just not as much independent research as we need. There’s a lot of data holes.” In this episode of Clean Beauty School, mindbodygreen beauty director and host Alexandra Engler chats with Bisharat about how machine learning can improve the beauty shopping experience, why the consumer shouldn't need to be “armchair chemists” to shop smarter, and leaving the world a little more beautiful than you found it. Plus, we get into the backlash against the “clean” beauty movement.

Show notes:

-Follow Jaleh Bisharat & NakedPoppy

-Read the Untethered Soul: The Journey Beyond Yourself 

-Bisharat’s meditation app of choice: Calm app 

-Titanium dioxide’s safety concerns in food vs. topical use 

-The precautionary principle 

-Read more about topics mentioned in this episode: preservatives in skin care, how to apply blush, cream blush, how to enhance sleep, identifying undertones, benefits of gardening, fitness for mental health.

-Shop products mentioned in this episode: NakedPoppy Nourish Cream Cleanser, Awakening Eye Cream, Revitalize Organic Facial Oil, Clean Liquid Eyeliner, Indie Lee Brightening Cleanser, Fit Glow Beauty Sea Ceramide Toning Mist, Correct+, Suntegrity 5-in-1 Tinted Sunscreen Moisturizer, 27 Rosiers Ready Selfie Go – Fresh Face Instant Mask, Ma Crème – Intense Youth Preserving Moisturizing Balm, Clove + Hallow Conceal + Correct, Eyes That Tok Lash Enhancing Mascara, ATHR The Big Bang Mascara, Kosas Color & Light Creme, Rituel de Fille Forbidden Lipstick

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“Beauty doesn’t need to be as overwhelming as we are conditioned to think it should be,” says makeup artist Jenny Patinkin, who literally wrote the book getting that no-fuss, yet polished makeup look. And one of the main takeaways she tries to share with her clients? Don’t get too caught up in arbitrary, overly-strict rules: “Beauty is about moderation. I’ve never subscribed to the ‘you shoulds’ & ‘you musts.’” In this episode of Clean Beauty School, mbg beauty director and host Alexandra Engler chats with Patinkin about finding your signature detail, little makeup touches that can go a long way, and why we need to rethink consumer culture in beauty. 

Show notes:

-Follow Jenny Patinkin

-Check out her brand, Jenny Patkinkin Beauty 

-Buy her book Lazy Perfection: The Art Of Looking Great Without Really Trying 

Read more about topics mentioned in this episode: cream blushes, how to apply blush, eyebrow shapes, how to apply eyeliner, how to apply concealer, how to use makeup sponges, imperfect makeup (a.k.a, “indie sleaze”), lash curlers.

-Shop products mentioned in this episode: Jenny Patinkin Brush Set, Lazy Perfection Eyelash Curler, Skin Smoothing Dermaplaning Set, Pure Luxury Makeup Sponge Duo, RMS ReEvolve Natural Liquid Foundation, MOB Beauty Cream Clay Eyeshadow, Blush, Bronzer, Maya Chia Advanced Response Complex Neck and Face Cream, Le Prunier Plum Beauty Oil

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“I believe hair care is skin care: Hair products can get on the skin and clog the pores, irritate and dry the skin, or cause eczema and other skin diseases. And in some cases these scalp concerns can even lead to hair shedding,” says Harvard-trained board-certified dermatologist Iris Rubin, M.D. who specializes in scalp health; she’s the founder of SEEN Hair Care, a beauty brand designed to be non-irritating for the scalp and skin. In this episode of Clean Beauty School, mbg beauty director and host Alexandra Engler chats with Rubin about COVID-related hair loss, hairline acne, and how allergens may impact your hair growth. 

Show notes:

-Follow Iris Rubin, M.D. and Seen Hair Care 

-About the Harvard hair shedding study 

-Hair follicle and fiber basics

-Types of hair loss & alopecias 

-Dandruff pathology

-Fraxel laser 

-LightStim

-Read more about topics discussed in this episode: scalp acne, hairline acne, hair loss, shedding vs. hair loss, how much hair should you lose every day, hair loss in women, hair loss in men, stress reduction techniques, how to make hair grow faster, nutrients that affect hair loss, dry shampoo effects, how often should you shampoo, silicones in hair care, dandruff, salicylic acid shampoos, hair color safety, caring for gray hair, at home hair color.

-Shop products mentioned in this ep: SEEN Fragrance Free Shampoo, SEEN Fragrance Free Conditioner, SEEN Face Wash, Skinceuticals C+E+Ferulic Acid, CeraVe Moisturizing Cream

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“I really do believe in the foundations of beauty, which are skin, teeth, brows, and hair. If you care and focus on those foundations, if you embrace the things that are working for you, then you can build out from there in any direction you want. But first you need to pay attention to the basics to build a strong foundation,” says brow specialist Joey Healy, owner of his eponymous brow salon and brand. In this episode of Clean Beauty School, mbg host and beauty director Alexandra Engler chats with Healy about the basics of brow care, ingredients that may be irritating the hair fibers, how to grow back struggling strands, and what brow products you need to have in your arsenal.   

Show notes:

-Follow Joey Healy

-Read Talk Of The Team

-Research on peptides and eyebrow growth 

-Read more about topics mentioned in this episode: Eyebrow threading, eyebrow growth, how long it takes to grow back brows, bleached brows, how to trim eyebrows, eyebrow shapes, dying eyebrows, brow lamination, eyebrow tinting, microshading your brows, eyebrow growth serums, castor oil for brows, peptides, hyaluronic acid, benzoyl peroxide, niacinamide, vitamin c, retinol

-Shop products mentioned in this episode: Joey Healy Brow Renovation System, Luxe Brow Powder, Brow Structure Clear Gel,Brow Lacquer, Brow Architecture Stylo, InnBeauty Project Green Machine Serum, Elta MD UV Clear Broad Spectrum SPF 46, Drunk Elephant B-Hydra Intensive Hydration Serum, Drunk Elephant T.L.C. Framboos Glycolic Night Serum

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“My background is in biotech, where we share all our data, equipment, and results. And when I tried to get the same info from beauty companies, I was met with silence,” says Barb Paldus, Ph.D., founder of Codex Labs. “It’s common in other industries, too. If you go to buy a microwave, it will tell you the wattage. If you buy a box of cereal, it will have a nutrition panel. The beauty industry doesn't operate like that, and I think that’s a problem.” In this episode of Clean Beauty School, mindbodygreen beauty director Alexandra Engler chats with Paldus about how she moved from biotech into the beauty industry, the changes she wants to see in the space, why we must consider the skin microbiome health when using beauty products, and how to optimize skin health through diet. Plus, she explains the testing protocols for personal care products (or lack thereof). 

Show notes:

-Learn more about Barb Paldus, Ph.D.

-Follow Codex Labs 

-Research about about epidermal function in health & compromised skin

-Understanding your skin barrier function

-Current research on the skin microbiome 

-The gut-skin connection

-Learn more about FDA regulations for the cosmetic industry

-FDA’s role in product testing

-More about MyMicrobiome test

-All about thalassotherapy 

-Read more about topics discussed in this episode: Skin microbiome 101, skin barrier, moisture barrier, acid mantle. 

-Shop products mentioned in this episode: Codex Labs Bia Exfoliating Face Wash, Bia Hydrating Skin Superfood, Antü Skin Barrier Moisturizer, Antü Skin Barrier Night Cream, Shaant Balancing Clay Mask, Balancing Refining Toner, Balancing Oil Control Cream

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“If there's any time to invest in yourself, it's during pregnancy. I mean, what a responsibility: You are growing a human being. It’s a hugely important time to pamper yourself because there are so many days that are so hard and even during postpartum. So if you need a pickup? I’m going to endorse that fully,” says board-certified dermatologist Sam Ellis, M.D. In this episode of Clean Beauty School, mindbodygreen beauty director and host Alexandra Engler chats with Ellis about the complicated nature of “pregnancy-safe” skin care, her journey as a new mom, and why pregnant people should give themselves some grace. 

Show notes:

-About board-certified dermatologist Sam Ellis, M.D.

-Follow Ellis on YouTube and Instagram

-The AAD on skin care ingredients during pregnancy

-Research on acne during pregnancy 

-Hormone changes during pregnancy

-Read more about topics mentioned in this episode: Retinol, salicylic acid, alpha hydroxy acids, lactic acids, glycolic acids, stretch mark creams, zinc oxide, stress acne, collagen, elastin, vitamin E, shea butter, vitamin C, double-cleanse, oil-cleanser, LED face masks.  

-Shop products mentioned in this episode: Body Glide, SkinCeuticals C+E+Ferulic 

-Read mbg’s featured articles: our new sleep-focused series The Wind Down, one of my favorite series Healthy Planet, Healthy You which is about being eco-conscious, and all about breakup hair.

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"I believe strongly in the mind, body, skin connection. Even what you think affects the skin at the cellular level,” says supermodel Miranda Kerr, founder of Kora Organics. “For example, sometimes when I meditate I sit on the grass outside and open my palms to the sun to receive that energy. I want to welcome that energy into the body, and show gratitude for it.” Kerr is a bonafide wellness and beauty expert, just listen to the episode to hear for yourself. In this episode of Clean Beauty School, mbg beauty director and host Alexandra Engler chats with Kerr about becoming a certified health coach, how she infuses mindfulness into small acts throughout the day, and her daily habits to feel balanced. 

Show notes:

-Follow Miranda and Kora Organics

-Learn more about Ecocert Certified Organics 

-What it means to be a Certified Health Coach and the Integrative Nutrition program & Stanford’s Coursera 

-Research about antioxidant content of organic ingredients

-Read more from David Hawkins: Power Vs. Force, The Map Of Consciousness Explained 

-Read more about topics mentioned in this episode: Antioxidants, mind-skin connection, essential oils, aromatherapy, palo santo, rose oil, crystal healing, rose quartz, amethyst, celery juice, benefits of plant-based diets, meditation, dry brushing, turmeric, benefits of vitamin C, vitamin C serums, benefits of retinol, how to practice guasha

-Shop products mentioned in this episode: Kora Organics Milky Mushroom Gentle Cleansing Oil, Turmeric Glow Foaming Cleanser, Turmeric Brightening & Exfoliating Mask, Minty Mineral Hydrating Mist, Noni Bright Vitamin C Serum, Active Algae Lightweight Moisturizer, Turmeric Glow Moisturizer, Berry Bright Vitamin C Eye Cream, Noni Radiant Eye Oil, Noni Glow Face Oil, Noni Glow Sleeping Mask, Rose Quartz Heart Facial Sculptor, Noni Glow Body Oil, Invigorating Body Scrub, Renewing Hand and Body Wash, Renewing Hand and Body Lotion

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“Our home, this earth, is a gift and we've really not done a great job of caring for it as human beings,” says Jenn Harper, the founder of Cheekbone Beauty (a certified B-Corp company). Harper is Anishinaabe, an indigenous group native to North America, which she says has influenced much of her relationship with beauty, the earth, and how she defines success. In this episode of Clean Beauty School, mbg beauty director and host Alexandra Engler chats with Harper about the current challenges in finding sustainable packaging, how to be a better beauty consumer, and why we should all redefine what success actually looks like. 

Show notes:

-Follow Jenn Harper & Cheekbone Beauty 

-Read The Power Of Habit by Charles Duhigg

-Learn more about forced assimilation of indegnous Canadians 

-Support indegnous communities through these various organizations

-Learn more about B Corp 

-Read more about topics mentioned in this episode: Resveratrol, Shea butter for skin 

-Shop products mentioned in this episode: Cheekbone Beauty Sustain Lipstick, Sustain Lipgloss, Sustain Brow Gel, Sustain Complexion Pencil 

Trigger warning: This podcast includes mentions of suicide. You're never alone. If you or someone you know are struggling, call the Suicide & Crisis Lifeline at 988 or visit suicidepreventionlifeline.org. 

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