I wish Deb's skills were taught in schools! Our lives would be so much easier - and so much more honest.

It took me ages to book my friend Debra Roberts on the podcast because she's so busy showing leaders and humans everywhere how to talk to each other. I love her simple, practical, and no-nonsense style to get the most out of every difficult conversation.

Deb is an author, a conversation expert, a developer of The Relationship Protocol® communication model, a trauma consultant (EMDR Certified), and an LCSW, a Licensed Clinical Social Worker.

This might be the interview you never even knew you needed.

And if you like this episode, please consider rating and reviewing the podcast on Apple Podcasts if you enjoy this episode! This helps to get the message out to more people just like you. And be sure to click the "Follow" button to get notified of updates.

🔥 Because it's my birthday, I'm inviting you to join Self Coaching Society, my inner circle, for the WHOLE of 2026 for just $297. Lock me in as your life coach for just $297 for a WHOLE YEAR here. 🔥