The How to ABA Podcast

Compassionate, Connected, and Evidence-Based: Why ESDM Belongs in Modern ABA


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What happens when ABA meets developmental science? The Early Start Denver Model, or ESDM, reminds us that evidence-based practice can also be compassionate and deeply connected. In this conversation, we talk about how ESDM blends the science of ABA with developmental and play-based teaching for our youngest learners.

We explore what makes ESDM unique: its focus on joint attention, social reciprocity, and developmental milestones for toddlers and preschoolers. It is not separate from ABA; it is ABA applied through a natural, relationship-centered lens. For those early learners who are not yet ready for the ABLLS or VB-MAPP, ESDM fills that gap beautifully.

We also share how tuning in to a child’s frequency and seeing and connecting with them first creates a foundation for real learning. When we slow down, follow their lead, and build connection, everything else becomes easier.

Whether you are a BCBA, therapist, or parent, this episode will help you see how science and heart can work together to support meaningful growth.

What’s Inside:

  • How ESDM complements ABA
  • Developmental milestones as teaching guides
  • Why connection comes before instruction

Mentioned in This Episode:
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