Been There Got Out Podcast

Confronting Communal Narcissism's Impact on Black Women in America


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Join the conversation with Christelyn Karazin, a celebrated author whose poignant reflections on her book "Swirling" spark an essential dialogue about the pressures black women face in the realm of relationships and society's expectations. Diving into the heart of the issue, we dissect the backlash she received, which brings to light the concept of communal narcissism and how it perpetuates the control and subjugation of black women. The conversation ventures beyond personal anecdotes, delving into the historical and societal factors that have cultivated these dynamics, and the courage it takes for individuals to stand against collective pressures.

The narrative deepens as we confront the stark challenges that come with marriage, single parenthood, and the ugly reality of reproductive coercion. We open up about our own journeys, punctuating the conversation with the real-life implications of the "strong black woman" stereotype and the subsequent neglect of black women's health needs. This chapter peels back layers of expectation and control, revealing how these forces shape the treatment of sons and daughters differently within the black community and how systemic violence against black women and children often goes underreported and unaddressed.

As we wrap up this profound exchange, we cast a critical eye on the Black Manosphere and its role in shaping harmful narratives around black women through influential figures who gain followers by perpetuating negativity and control. The episode doesn't shy away from discussing the complexities of interracial relationships, the educational and income disparities within the black community, and the skewed societal norms that black women navigate. Sincere thanks to Christelyn for her invaluable insights and to our listeners for engaging in this vital conversation, reminding us of the importance of community engagement and the collective effort required to bring these critical issues into the spotlight.

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