There seems to be a sea of things that we can find overwhelming these days. How do we move through it all without becoming bogged down? In this episode, producer Sam talks to Phoebe Atkinson, Lissy Cole, and Rudi Robinson about the ways they see and approach overwhelming circumstances. Later on, Petra sits down with Rachel Kitchens, a spiritual director, to talk about her own experiences and a handful of practical tips. To be clear, this episode doesn't address the overwhelming nature of serious physical or mental health issues. The sense of overwhelm focussed on applies to otherwise healthy people who find either personal or global circumstances to be just too much at times. Wherever you're at, feel free to join us.

Haere mai!

Sacred Texts:

• Michael Leunig's poem
• Tuesdays with Morrie by Mitch Albom (pages 102 to 104)

Music:

• Come and Play in the Milky Night - Demo by Stereolab (played to open Phoebe's interview)
• Huia by Aro (played to open Lissy and Rudi's interview)
• Cumbia Sobre el Mar y Quantic (played during Sam's bike ride)
• Those Days by Dal and Leah Yager (played during Michael Leunig's poem)
• You Got The Love by Candi Staton and The Source
• Space 1 by Nala Sinephro (played during Tuesdays with Morrie reading)
• Sun Rays Like Stilts by Tommy Geurero (played to end communion)
• Helplessness Blues by Fleet Foxes
• FTA by Whitney (played to end Rachel's interview)
• Space is the Place by Ezra Collective (played during the benediction)