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The Polyvagal Wonder Woman (see interview 1) comes back to the Polyvagal Podcast to discuss her second book and our nervous systems during COVID-19.  She's just the best.

For in-depth show notes, times and quotes, go here - https://www.justinlmft.com/post/debdanainterview2

Order Deb’s new book - https://amzn.to/2JSUFbl

And get book 1 also - https://amzn.to/39XvezW

Polyvagal Patrons access for $5/mo - https://www.patreon.com/justinlmft 

Deb's website - https://www.debdanalcsw.com

Mugs & more from Justin - https://society6.com/justinlmft

Recommended reading - https://www.justinlmft.com/books

Intro/Outro music & Transition Sounds by Benjo Beats - https://soundcloud.com/benjobeats

Mentioned in this episode:

Naming Your Stuckness

Not sure which stuck state you're in? That's normal, and more common than you'd think. I made a free page that lays the stuck states out in plain language so you can find words for what you're experiencing. No quiz, no email just to look:

https://www.stucknotbroken.com/stuck?utm_source=podcast&utm_medium=dynamic_spot&utm_campaign=stuck-page