Deb Dana - one third of my Polyvagal Trinity.  Deb Dana is called "the Pied Piper of the Polyvagal Theory," and honestly someone I want to be like when I grow up.  She does the stuff I do, but better and first.  I gotta be honest.  We talk in depth about:

1. "Story follows State"
2. Climbing the Polyvagal Ladder
3. Diagnosing

DEB DANA - http://www.debdanalcsw.com/

(these next two links will take you to Amazon, where I get a portion of the sale as an Amazon Affiliate.)

The Polyvagal Theory in Therapy - https://amzn.to/3409v8z

Clinical Applications of the Polyvagal Theory - https://amzn.to/322IZK3

Intro/Outro music by Benjo Beats - https://soundcloud.com/benjobeats

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