Deep Dive with Ali Abdaal

Imagine leaving your corporate job behind because you went viral overnight. After faking his way to the top of London Fashion week Max Fosh shot to online fame, becoming known for his comedy videos on YouTube and social stunts, like running for London Mayor in last years election. Max is also now selling out venues with his brand new stand up show, Zocial Butterfly. In the conversation we talk about Max’s journey through university to the point of 1 Million YouTube subscribers, his creative process for putting together crazy video ideas and the highs and lows of the online world. Enjoy!

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(00:00) Intro

(02:50) How would you describe yourself?

(04:09) Your hatred for the corporate world

(10:41) What is student radio?

(17:35) How did you build confidence to make Street Smart?

(19:20) Starting to create content

(27:10) What was it like going viral for the first time?

(32:40) Evolving as a creator

(37:35) Running for London Mayor

(41:38) What was your creative process for making videos?

(51:10) Building a team

(53:30) How do you make money these days?

(54:22) Do you worry about the future of your career?

(01:00:50) Therapy and hedonic adaptation

(01:12:31) Doing stand up

(01:22:20) How does stand up compare to video?

(01:24:57) What’s it like working with a director to produce a show?

(01:25:20) What are the economics of being a standup comedian?

(01:37:16) What’s your relationship with burnout?

(01:40:05) Advice for aspiring creators

 
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In this season round up I look back at some of the best moments from season three, including conversations with Mo Gawdat, Grace Beverley, Tiago Forte, Richard Wiseman, Marques Brownlee and Alex Lieberman. 

(00:00) Intro
(00:44) Mo Gawdat: Lessons in happiness
(10:17) Grace Beverley: Lessons in side hustles & self-care
(19:56) Tiago Forte: Lesson in productivity
(30:38) Richard Wiseman: Lessons in luck
(40:17) MKBHD: Lessons in YouTube
(46:20) Alex Lieberman: Lessons in business

FULL EPISODES ⬇️

The Happiness Expert Making 1 Billion People Happier - Mo Gawdat
How To Build A Multi-Million Dollar Empire In Your 20s - Grace Beverley
Confronting My Productivity Guru - Tiago Forte
The Sure-Fire Way To Be Luckier In Life - Advice From Psychology Professor Richard Wiseman
MKBHD: The Story To 16 Million & The World Of YouTube
Lessons From Selling Morning Brew For $75 Million At 28 - Alex Lieberman

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In this episode I chat to Marques Brownlee also known as MKBHD, one of the largest and most respected tech YouTuber’s in the world with over 16 million subscribers. In the conversation we discuss the creator economy, the evolution of his business and how he’s stayed consistent and relevant on the platform over the past 10 years. Enjoy!

(00:00) Intro

(01:23) Stating consistent over the last 13-14 years?

(03:30) The lifespan of a creator

(07:05) Your process for making YouTube videos

(09:07) What is the MKBHD business model?

(13:55) Approaching the relationship between money and lifestyle

(18:30) What’s your opinion on quality vs quantity?

(19:42) What does the org chart look like?

(22:47) The octopus analogy

(24:16) Are you still editing yourself? 14:49 What’s been the biggest challenge of having a team? 
(25:45) How does your business operate? 30:03 Why a robot studio? 33:04 How did covid impact your business?

(45:01) How much do you care about analytics? 48:00 What’s your relationship with goals?

(50:33) Your dream video studio

(53:27) Do you worry about the longevity of creators?

(55:02) How are you thinking about shorts?

(01:01:00) Should we use clickbait titles for growth?

(01:05:48) How do you deal with hate?

(01:09:29) Starting your podcast, Waveform

(01:11:59) The studio and your team

(01:17:44) Angel Investing

(01:19:41) Personal goals

🔗 CONNECT WITH MARQUES

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Chris Sparks is a retired professional poker player, recently ranked in the top 20 online cash game players in the world. He’s also the Founder of Forcing Function where he teaches elite poker frameworks to a select group of twelve investors and executives in meaningful companies, and the author of Experiment Without Limits, a comprehensive workbook for achieving peak performance and leads workshops on decision-making, systems thinking, and performance architecture to organisations and investment teams. In the conversation we talk about what we can learn from the world of poker around high performance and how systems thinking and decision making is crucial for success. Enjoy!

(00:00) Intro
(02:17) Being a professional poker player
(06:00) The 'Red Queen' Effect
(08:18) The psychological advantage and self-deception
(13:04) Online vs real life poker
(20:16) Relativistic skills
(25:24) Having a mindset of abundance
(32:27) Applying lessons from poker to your life
(50:15) Understanding other peoples' problems better than our own
(54:21) Experiment Without Limits
(01:02:14) The power of objectivity
(01:18:25) Perfectionistic tendencies
(01:25:00) Deciding your priorities
(01:28:22) Being a performance coach
(01:42:31) Realising everything is a choice
(01:47:40) The status quo bias and forcing functions
(01:58:27) Chris' Free Performance Assessment

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📚 RESOURCES MENTIONED

Forcing Function Performance Assessment - https://www.forcingfunction.com/assessment
Peak Performance Workbook (free download) - http://www.experimentwithoutlimits.com
Forcing Function Hour Podcast - http://www.forcingfunctionhour.com
Group Coaching Program (Cohort 4 launches Sept) - https://www.teamperformancetraining.com
Forcing Function Performance Library - https://www.forcingfunction.com/library
Deep Dive with Noah Kagan - https://youtu.be/B4rVZW1YJB0
Deep Dive with Grace Beverley - https://youtu.be/7_hNRR6K6z4

Find the show notes and the transcript on the website: https://aliabdaal.com/podcast/

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We can all struggle with procrastination. Putting stuff off not only makes us feel bad but it can set us back in our careers and lives. So what do we do about it? Dr Tim Pychyl is as one of the world’s leading experts in procrastination. He has written two books about how and why we procrastinate, as well as many scientific papers. In this episode of Deep Dive I talk to Tim about what exactly procrastination is, how to nudge ourselves into better habits, and spirituality and flow. Tim is such a brilliant and knowledgable researcher and this conversation gave me fascinating look into the the psychology of procrastination.

0:00 Intro
1:58 Procrastination vs. delay
9:43 Why can procrastination feel good?
13:41 Getting started
21:10 Goals, discipline, motivation
33:54 How can we achieve effortlessness?
38:02 Spirituality and flow
45:00 How do we nudge ourselves into habits?
56:44 Procrastination as an emotional problem
1:07:28 Why tips and tricks don’t always work
1:13:15 Reading philosophy
1:15:14 Being a father

🔗 CONNECT WITH TIM

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📕 Solving The Procrastination Puzzle
📙 Procrastination, Health and Wellbeing

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📚 RESOURCES MENTIONED

The War of Art by Steven Pressfield - https://geni.us/H7z29S
The Moral Animal by Robert Wright - https://geni.us/fwolPQ
Atomic Habits by James Clear - https://geni.us/lsrei
The Art of Procrastination by John Perry - https://geni.us/RbB8ZP
The Power of Habit by Charles Duhigg - https://geni.us/h3XN0s6
The Power of Vulnerability by Berne Brown - https://geni.us/b19T
The Willpower Instinct by Kelly McGonigal - https://geni.us/L8oK5
The Courage to Teach by Parker Palmer - https://geni.us/7Aa9a5
A Guide to the Good Life by William Irvine - https://geni.us/A7bExOK
Happy by Derren Brown - https://geni.us/GHHI
The Daily Stoic by Ryan Holiday and Stephen Hanselman - https://geni.us/alvI2o
Four Thousand Weeks by Oliver Burkeman - https://geni.us/oZwL
The Way of Zen by Alan Watts - https://geni.us/rqlvW6
Radical Compassion by Tara Brach - https://geni.us/zypL
Affect Regulation Training by Matthias Berking - https://geni.us/UlSk9z
The Courage to Be by Paul Tillich - https://geni.us/cf0JR
Man’s Search for Meaning by Victor E Frankl - https://geni.us/nFjoNo

Find the show notes and the transcript on the website: https://aliabdaal.com/podcast/

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In this episode I sat down with CEO and former influencer Grace Beverley. Grace started two companies, SHREDDY and TALA, all while studying at Oxford University. She then published the book ‘Working Hard, Hardly Working’, and is a Forbes 30 Under 30. In the conversation we chat about managing your side hustle, Grace’s journey away from being an influencer, and the best ways to build sustainable businesses. Grace also has some great advice about self-care and managing burnout which more and more of us are grappling with, whether we realise it at the time or not. Hope you enjoy!

0:00 Intro

2:20 Being a music scholar

7:25 Do you monetise something you love?

14:17 Are side hustles toxic?

20:08 Becomming an influencer

28:43 Fear of posting

35:56 The multiplier effect of making money

44:30 Building long-term income

51:21 Pivoting from being an influencer

1:00:00 Optimising business potential

1:18:08 Sustainable fashion

1:35:32 Working hard, Hardly working

1:46:22 Setting goals

1:54:57 Burnout

2:00:20 Grace’s favourite books

Find the show notes and the transcript on the website: https://aliabdaal.com/podcast/

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How can we do the most good with our careers, money and lives? And what are the things that we can do right now, to positively impact future generations to come? This is the mission of the Effective Altruism (EA) movement co-founded by Will McAskill, Associate Professor in Philosophy at the University of Oxford and co-founder of nonprofits Giving What We Can, the Centre for Effective Altruism, and Y Combinator-backed 80,000 Hour. In the conversation, me and Will talk about the fundamentals of EA, his brand new book 'What We Owe The Future', the idea of 'longtermism', the most pressing existential threats humanity is facing and what we can do about them, why giving away your income will make you happier, why your career choice is the biggest choice you’ll make in your life and much more. 

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Sahil Bloom is the Founding Partner at $10M fund SRB Ventures, an angel investor in more than 30 companies, and has gone viral on Twitter in the past two years growing from 0 to 500,000 followers where he tweets about business and personal development. In the conversation we talk about the longevity of online careers, how to approach your side hustle and fatherhood. 

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In these Deep Dive Snippets, I'll be sharing some of my favourite moments from past episodes of the podcast.

51% of UK business owners have experienced burnout since the start of the COVID19 pandemic, but do you really need to hustle to the point of burnout out when starting a business to be successful? In this snippet, I talk to James Hoffman about the dangers of hustling and what he would've done differently in the early days of building his business Stone Mile Coffee Roasters.

Listen to the full episode here 👉 https://open.spotify.com/episode/1Fru7GPgAflAe7eIuOHgZh?si=sGxOPsh7TZ2Br5qoBNEe5g

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On average, most of us will spend one third of our lives at work. That’s a lot of time. But even though we spend so much of our lives at work, according to a 2022 happiness study over one third of Brits are unhappy in their job. Samantha Clarke is a work happiness consultant, author of Love It Or Leave It: How to Be Happy at Work and resident lecturer and facilitator at The School of Life, Simon Sinek's platform and The Guardian who gives masterclasses on career potential, navigating transitions and change, managing stress and anxiety, finding confidence and purpose at work. During the conversation me and Samantha break down the traditional prescription around what a career needs to look like and tackle all the big questions facing someone navigating a career: how do you figure out what career path to choose, how do you know when it’s time to quit, how do you reinvent yourself in ease phase of your career, how do you negotiate emotional barriers to change, and most importantly, how do you design a career that you love. 

Timestamps:

00:00 Intro 

2:20 Overcoming the title trap

3:47 Evolving understandings about work 

08:53 Navigating emotional barriers to pursuing your dream career

12:32 Exploring the hidden assumptions in coaching 

17:13 Love It or Leave It: how to be happy at work 

20:59 The 6 happiness pillars for work 

23:35 How to assess your happiness at work 

25:12 Can everyone find purpose in a job?

28:32 The relationship between career purpose and money 

35:20 Human Design Profiles

42:17 Manifestation and affirmations 

46:26 Decision making 

51:09 The signs and symptoms of burnout 

59:02 Following your passion vs finding your passion 

01:07:28 Coaching Ali on company mission and happiness

01:20:20 Takeaways 

🔗 CONNECT WITH SAMANTHA 

🐦 Twitter - https://twitter.com/samanthaand_
📸 Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/samanthaand
💻 Website - https://samanthaand.co/
👥 Linkedin - https://www.linkedin.com/in/samanthaclarke/
📕 Love It or Leave It: How To Be Happy At Work - https://geni.us/dPkwD

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