"I could be walking in Central Park and come up on one of these horse and buggies. I don't think twice about it because I see it as part of the New York attraction. You know, you have the Statue of Liberty, you have Times Square, and you have these romantic horse and buggy things where people get married in the park and they ride these carriages. And tourists, they take these rides in Central Park. It's romantic, it's something beautiful to see. But I never thought for one second that these horses are abused." – Tracy Winston, juror from Ryder's trial

New York City has a big, visible animal cruelty issue: horses forced to pull carriages, carrying heavy loads for long hours in all types of weather in the middle of chaotic traffic.

Three years ago, a carriage horse named Ryder was a victim of this cruelty. He collapsed on a Manhattan street after being worked for hours in the summer heat.

Two months later, he was euthanized. His story sparked global outrage. Ryder's driver, Ian McKeever, was charged with animal cruelty

The trial took place a few weeks ago, but McKeever was ultimately acquitted. This conversation is with Edita Birnkrant, the Executive Director of NYCLASS and Tracy Winston, one of the jurors from Ryder's trial.

New York's weak and outdated animal protection laws have not changed since Ryder died— and because of this, another avoidable death that occurred just a week after we recorded this interview. On August 5th, a horse named Lady died while pulling a carriage in Manhattan.

This conversation is about accountability, about corruption and about what happens when justice fails the most vulnerable.

It's too late for Ryder and Lady. But it is not too late to act. If you live in New York, please call your City Council members and tell them it's time to bring Ryder's Law, Intro 967, up for a vote and pass this vital bill to protect carriage horses from suffering and death on the city's streets.

To find your council member, go to: https://www.speciesunite.com/ny-horse-carriage-petition

NYCLASS: https://nyclass.org/