Jimmy Carnes is a Capable Life trainer who has worked with Steve for over ten years. He joins Steve on the pod to chat:

- What do you do when you don't know what to do.

- Leadership as 'taking responsibility' rather than 'knowing what to do.'

- How many milliseconds do you need to know if a worship band member is not ok?

And much more. 

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