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Stop chasing algorithms and start building a marketing engine that actually works for you. In this episode, I sit down with Liz Zhou, therapist turned website designer and copywriter, to unpack what's really driving client inquiries in 2026. We dive into why SEO is more than just a buzzword and how your website serves as the foundation of your entire marketing ecosystem. I explore the often-overlooked gap between getting traffic and actually converting that traffic into paying clients, and Liz shares how therapists can create websites that not only rank but resonate.
We also get real about the highs and lows of social media growth, including Liz's experience going viral and the burnout that followed. I ask the questions so many of you are wondering: Do you actually need Instagram to grow your practice? What happens if you step away? And how can you create a more sustainable, long-term marketing strategy that doesn't rely on constant posting? From niching down and refining your messaging to designing a neurodivergent-friendly website that speaks clearly to your ideal client, this episode will challenge the way you think about marketing your practice.
Topics Covered in this Episode:
3:12 - Why SEO is the true foundation of sustainable marketing
6:45 - The hidden reason your website isn't converting clients
10:28 - What really happens when you go viral as a therapist
14:02 - The burnout behind social media growth no one talks about
17:36 - How to step away from Instagram without losing inquiries
20:11 - The three pillars every high-converting website needs
23:07 - Subtle copywriting shifts that instantly make your site stand out
25:40 - How to design a website that works for different types of brains
If you've been feeling stuck, overwhelmed, or burnt out trying to keep up with marketing trends, this episode will open your eyes to a more grounded and effective approach. Tune in and start building a marketing system that supports your practice instead of draining it.
Resources Mentioned:
Connect with Liz: https://www.lizamay.com/
Find out more about Alma here: helloalma.com/danielle
Take 50% off your first 3 months of Simple Practice + a 7 day free trial using the link: simplepractice.com/danielle
Fill Up Therapists: $0-$60k
If you are needing more private pay clients in your practice in 2026, the Practice Accelerator is the perfect fit for you. Use the code ALLIN as a podcast listener to get $100 off at checkout.
Scale Up Therapists: $60-$200k+
Group practice owners, content creators and therapists scaling beyond 1-1.
Apply here for the next round of Scale Up Mastermind where I help therapists create additional revenue streams and scale to multi six and seven figures.
By Danielle Swimm5
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Stop chasing algorithms and start building a marketing engine that actually works for you. In this episode, I sit down with Liz Zhou, therapist turned website designer and copywriter, to unpack what's really driving client inquiries in 2026. We dive into why SEO is more than just a buzzword and how your website serves as the foundation of your entire marketing ecosystem. I explore the often-overlooked gap between getting traffic and actually converting that traffic into paying clients, and Liz shares how therapists can create websites that not only rank but resonate.
We also get real about the highs and lows of social media growth, including Liz's experience going viral and the burnout that followed. I ask the questions so many of you are wondering: Do you actually need Instagram to grow your practice? What happens if you step away? And how can you create a more sustainable, long-term marketing strategy that doesn't rely on constant posting? From niching down and refining your messaging to designing a neurodivergent-friendly website that speaks clearly to your ideal client, this episode will challenge the way you think about marketing your practice.
Topics Covered in this Episode:
3:12 - Why SEO is the true foundation of sustainable marketing
6:45 - The hidden reason your website isn't converting clients
10:28 - What really happens when you go viral as a therapist
14:02 - The burnout behind social media growth no one talks about
17:36 - How to step away from Instagram without losing inquiries
20:11 - The three pillars every high-converting website needs
23:07 - Subtle copywriting shifts that instantly make your site stand out
25:40 - How to design a website that works for different types of brains
If you've been feeling stuck, overwhelmed, or burnt out trying to keep up with marketing trends, this episode will open your eyes to a more grounded and effective approach. Tune in and start building a marketing system that supports your practice instead of draining it.
Resources Mentioned:
Connect with Liz: https://www.lizamay.com/
Find out more about Alma here: helloalma.com/danielle
Take 50% off your first 3 months of Simple Practice + a 7 day free trial using the link: simplepractice.com/danielle
Fill Up Therapists: $0-$60k
If you are needing more private pay clients in your practice in 2026, the Practice Accelerator is the perfect fit for you. Use the code ALLIN as a podcast listener to get $100 off at checkout.
Scale Up Therapists: $60-$200k+
Group practice owners, content creators and therapists scaling beyond 1-1.
Apply here for the next round of Scale Up Mastermind where I help therapists create additional revenue streams and scale to multi six and seven figures.

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