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My guest on this week’s podcast is Michael Remole, a mental health therapist in Central Illinois who integrates trauma-informed equine assisted psychotherapy into his work with clients.
A horse-lover since childhood, Michael was working on his master’s degree in counseling when he realized he could integrate his love for horses with his passion for working with people who had experienced trauma. Michael is now the COO and Director of Clinical Services at Gateway Family Services. He is trained in Natural Lifemanship as well as Dr. Bruce Perry’s Neurosequential Model of Therapeutics, which is focused on strengthening the foundation of the brain- especially the brainstem and diencephalon. Michael is also the founder and director of the Rising Tide Conference.
Michael kicks of the conversation by talking about how the Neurosequential Model of Therapeutics provides a roadmap of brain development. According to the NMT, if we to help strengthen the brain (ourselves, our clients, or our children’s brain), we have to connect with the part of the brain that’s online in that moment. Michael stated that if he wants to connect to a horse – or human!- who is operating from the lowest part of it’s brain in a fight or flight response, Michael has to “speak the language of the brainstem”, which is rhythmic, patterned, and repetitive sensory input. While he’s working with horses, that could translate into how is swinging a rope or patting his legs- in a rhythmic, patterned, repetitive, sensory input.
When horses are in survival-mode, they have a very difficult time accessing their ‘thinking’ parts of the brain. They need humans to be predictable as a way to communicate safety!
This, of course, is true of humans, too.
Connect with Michael
Michael is doing some truly ground-breaking work within his community- go check it out!
Gateway Family Services
Gateway Family Services on Facebook
Rising Tide Conference
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My guest on this week’s podcast is Michael Remole, a mental health therapist in Central Illinois who integrates trauma-informed equine assisted psychotherapy into his work with clients.
A horse-lover since childhood, Michael was working on his master’s degree in counseling when he realized he could integrate his love for horses with his passion for working with people who had experienced trauma. Michael is now the COO and Director of Clinical Services at Gateway Family Services. He is trained in Natural Lifemanship as well as Dr. Bruce Perry’s Neurosequential Model of Therapeutics, which is focused on strengthening the foundation of the brain- especially the brainstem and diencephalon. Michael is also the founder and director of the Rising Tide Conference.
Michael kicks of the conversation by talking about how the Neurosequential Model of Therapeutics provides a roadmap of brain development. According to the NMT, if we to help strengthen the brain (ourselves, our clients, or our children’s brain), we have to connect with the part of the brain that’s online in that moment. Michael stated that if he wants to connect to a horse – or human!- who is operating from the lowest part of it’s brain in a fight or flight response, Michael has to “speak the language of the brainstem”, which is rhythmic, patterned, and repetitive sensory input. While he’s working with horses, that could translate into how is swinging a rope or patting his legs- in a rhythmic, patterned, repetitive, sensory input.
When horses are in survival-mode, they have a very difficult time accessing their ‘thinking’ parts of the brain. They need humans to be predictable as a way to communicate safety!
This, of course, is true of humans, too.
Connect with Michael
Michael is doing some truly ground-breaking work within his community- go check it out!
Gateway Family Services
Gateway Family Services on Facebook
Rising Tide Conference
More about about Rhythmic, Repetitive, Relational, and Somatosensory Experiences
Engaging the Body: Working with Dysregulated Kids is an eight-hour virtual training for professionals (of any kind!) eager to bring movement and body-based ex
Making Sense of Baffling Behaviors: A FREE audio-only training for professionals who work with the families of kids with big, baffling behaviors!
Yes! FREE! You'll listen on your own time, right in your podcast app.
RobynGobbel.com/BafflingBehaviors for all the details and to sign up!
It starts May 5 and will be available to listen to until May 12. But don't wait to sign up!
Check Out All Robyn's Free Resources!
You can download all sorts of free resources, including webinars, eBook, and infographics about topics such as lying, boundaries, and co-regulation!
RobynGobbel.com/FreeResources
:::
The All-About-Me workbook will help your child grow their owl brain and develop ways to calm their watchdog and possum brain. 24 page, full-color, instant download at RobynGobbel.com/store
:::
Buy Raising Kids with Big, Baffling Behaviors at RobynGobbel.com/BafflingBook
Join The Club (or get on the waiting list!) over at RobynGobbel.com/TheClub
Hop on the waiting list for Being With- an immersive professional training program exploring the neurobiology of big, baffling behaviors at RobynGobbel.com/BeingWith
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