Marshall Lyles is a therapist, author, poet, trainer, advocate, and thought-leader.  Mostly though, he is a dear friend. 

I asked Marshall to come on the podcast to talk about disability, ableism, and parenting kids with vulnerable nervous systems. 

I couldn’t possibly capture the beauty of my conversation with Marshall in a short summary.  This is an episode you absolutely want to listen to in order to get the full impact. 

You can read a longer summary AND get a full transcript over at https://robyngobbel.com/ableisminparenting

In this episode, Marshall and I discuss:

• The definition of disability
• The definition of ableism
• Trauma Informed Care and ableism
• How ableism shows up in parenting kids with invisible, brain-based differences

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