In this episode, Chris and Max discuss Step 6 & 7 in the recovery process. They explore the concept of defects of character and the importance of honesty in recovery. They share personal experiences of how addiction affected their ability to be honest and how they have worked to overcome this defect.

They also discuss the role of the higher power in removing these defects and how to take action in the recovery process through service and step work.

They also explore the relationship between defects and shortcomings and the need for humility and courage in asking a higher power to remove these shortcomings.

The conversation ends with a sense of optimism and a commitment to continue the work of recovery.