This is a special podcast crossover episode! Also airing on the podcast That's Runnable with Tommy Lewis, we dive in and chat with Tommy about all things running! We share our personal experiences with training, the challenges of specific races like Cocodona 250 and Devil's Gulch, and the philosophy of maintaining fitness for adventure beyond just running. We also delve into the nuances of ultra running, comparing local races to major events, and discussing the differences between European and American ultra races. The discussion culminates in preparations for the Devil's Gulch race, emphasizing the importance of mindset and gratitude in the face of challenges.

Please check out Tommy's podcast, That's Runnable:

⁠https://open.spotify.com/show/4Lr743lZe67cqlHSqHgcRC⁠

and check out Tommy on Instagram:

@tommyrunpt

@thatsrunnable