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In this episode of the Estate Agency X podcast, Mark and Rob sit down with Tony Beales, founder of Millbanks, to delve into his four-decade journey in estate agency. Tony shares how the industry has evolved, from the challenges of limited training and communication in the early days to the game-changing role of technology today. He explains how modern tools are helping agents focus on the human connections that define the profession.

Tony reflects on the milestones that shaped Millbanks, including surviving natural disasters and navigating the 2008 financial crisis. He explains how strategic decisions, such as expanding into new premises, helped the business grow into the success it is today. With a passion for mentoring, Tony offers invaluable advice on how to scale a business without overwhelming your team.

In 2024, Tony made the courageous decision to transition Millbanks to a self-employed model, embracing a fresh approach in a challenging economic climate. He opens up about the personal and professional challenges of making such a significant change and the support he received from family and peers that made it possible.

Looking ahead, Tony shares his thoughts on building a strong brand, integrating systems, and using technology and social media to empower agents while safeguarding brand integrity. This episode is filled with insights, inspiration, and practical takeaways for anyone in the estate agency world.

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In this Estate Agency X podcast episode, Mark and Rob look back a month after the Estate Agency X 9 event, reflecting on the deeper, long-lasting insights that have been shaping agents’ approaches. Mark revisits his 2018 prediction about a “new era” in estate agency, a divide that’s now here, where agents are moving toward a more strategic approach that shows value through precise data, strong brand identity, and targeted marketing. He explains how these elements, when combined correctly, create a powerful narrative for clients. Without the right data, he warns, brand and marketing efforts can miss the mark, resulting in empty buzzwords rather than meaningful impact.

One of the standout moments remains Daniel Priestley’s session, which inspired agents to think beyond traditional methods. Daniel highlighted how memorable, value-driven brands are using digital tools to create genuine connections with clients. His approach to branding has led many agents to reconsider how they present their agency’s unique strengths.

Reflecting on the estate agency panels, Mark and Rob discuss how the self-employed model and scalable, data-driven strategies have stirred significant interest. The first panel encouraged agents to embrace autonomy without isolation by leveraging tech and centralised data to build structured operations, while the second panel offered real-world tactics for scaling without compromising on quality or fee integrity. Insights on AI and nurturing systems have already inspired agents to build sustainable growth models that prioritise service excellence.

As they wrap up, Mark and Rob celebrate the community spirit that EX9 created and the impact it’s still having. For listeners aiming to lead in this evolving industry, this episode delves into the tools and mindsets essential for thriving in the “new era” of estate agency.

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This isn’t just a conference, it’s a catalyst for those ready to lead dif

Sponsors of this podcast, Iceberg Digital are setting the standard in a world full of PropTech noise and AI buzzwords. 

With AI prospecting that finds listings before your competitors, marketing that wins instructions by putting your brand front and centre and a CRM that transforms how your team works, this isn’t just another tool, it's what leading estate agents use to stay ahead. 

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In this episode of Estate Agency X, Mark Burgess and Rob Brady welcome Stephen Geer, co-director of RedRoots Property, as he shares his inspiring journey from healthcare to estate agency. Along with his brother Matt, Stephen has successfully transformed their family-run business into a key player in the Yorkshire market, using strategies like video marketing and a fresh approach to off-market properties to stand out in an increasingly competitive landscape.

Stephen discusses the importance of blending financial performance with a strong company culture, highlighting how this balance has been vital to their success. He reflects on the challenges of onboarding new partners, particularly through the experiences of Laura and Ben, showing how a supportive, values-led approach can break away from traditional perceptions of estate agents. By focusing on genuine relationships and community, RedRoots have built a team that cares deeply about its clients, rather than simply chasing the next deal.

The conversation also explores the tools and innovations shaping the next generation of estate agencies. Stephen explains how RedRoots are making use of advanced systems and marketing techniques designed to enhance the customer journey, ensuring that both agents and clients feel fully supported. Looking ahead, Stephen shares his vision for growing the business through strategic partnerships, while maintaining their focus on cultural integrity and exceptional client service.

If you’re an agent who’s looking to create a business that thrives on both performance and a strong company culture, this episode is for you. Ask yourself, what steps are you taking to ensure your agency delivers not just results but a meaningful experience for your clients and your team?

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Sponsors of this podcast, Iceberg Digital are setting the standard in a world full of PropTech noise and AI buzzwords. 

With AI prospecting that finds listings before your competitors, marketing that wins instructions by putting your brand front and centre and a CRM that transforms how your team works, this isn’t just another tool, it's what leading estate agents use to stay ahead. 

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Are you struggling or succeeding in the current market? Mark Burgess and Rob Brady dive into the heart of the UK's estate agency landscape, sharing what they're seeing on the ground and working with agents across the country. They explore why some are soaring while others face significant challenges and what differentiates those who thrive from those who struggle to stay afloat.

This conversation isn’t just about survival... it’s about redefining your strategies to succeed. From the twists and turns of interest rates to the impact of global economic changes, Mark and Rob offer practical insights into how you can adapt and overcome these hurdles. They dig deep into the power of building robust databases and the necessity of clear, honest communication in a world that’s constantly shifting beneath our feet.

But the journey doesn’t end with the challenges of today. We also take a forward-looking approach, delving into future opportunities through programmes designed for estate agents ready to transform their game. Whether it’s about turning casual interest into real prospects or maximising the potential of tools from Iceberg Digital, you’ll find a roadmap to reshape your agency’s future.

If you're ready to take control of your agency's growth and resilience in this unpredictable market, this episode is your guide. Join us as we explore how to turn the tide in your favour and unlock the full potential of your estate agency business.

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In this episode hosts Mark and Rob sit down with James Allen from Allen Residential to explore how estate agents can uncover opportunities that others might miss by leveraging the power of data and technology.

James, with nearly three decades of experience, explains how he transformed his business by recognising a key pattern: many sellers and landlords coming to the market were slipping through the cracks, invisible to agents relying on outdated methods or platforms like Rightmove alone. By investing in technology and building a comprehensive database, James developed the ability to spot these hidden opportunities well before his competitors.

He shares how a well-maintained database allows him to track client behaviour and engagement, helping him identify potential sellers and landlords before they actively list their properties. This gives James a crucial edge—he can start conversations and build relationships with clients before they even consider contacting other agents. By analysing data, he is able to see patterns in client inquiries, property valuations, and even long-term engagement that others simply wouldn’t have the tools to recognise.

James also talks about how he's applied this same strategy across other businesses he's acquired, using data-driven insights to pinpoint future leads and predict movements in the market. His ability to leverage data to see what others can’t has not only helped him grow Allen Residential but also provided a model for successful business acquisitions and expansions.

For estate agents still relying on old technology or basic lead-generation platforms, James highlights the importance of moving beyond the basics. His story is a masterclass in how building and leveraging a comprehensive database can help agents uncover hidden sellers and landlords, maximising opportunities and revenue in a competitive market.

This episode is essential listening for any estate agent looking to take their business to the next level, avoid "leaving money on the table," and gain a competitive advantage in an increasingly data-driven world.

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This isn’t just a conference, it’s a catalyst for those ready to lead dif

Sponsors of this podcast, Iceberg Digital are setting the standard in a world full of PropTech noise and AI buzzwords. 

With AI prospecting that finds listings before your competitors, marketing that wins instructions by putting your brand front and centre and a CRM that transforms how your team works, this isn’t just another tool, it's what leading estate agents use to stay ahead. 

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In this episode of Estate Agency X, Rob sits down with Mark Burgess to explore his SCOPE methodology and dive into why he created it. Mark shares his vast experience, detailing the balance between excitement and risk that comes with launching a new venture. He delves into the often overlooked need for realistic planning and the importance of preparing for potential pitfalls, offering practical advice for navigating the often overwhelming startup phase.

As the conversation evolves, Rob and Mark tackle the ongoing challenges of running an estate agency. From the intense demands of the "challenger" stage, where many businesses grapple with operational instability, to the relief of reaching more stable ground, they explore how essential it is to master various business functions. Managing cash flow, making strategic adjustments, and finding the right staff all come under the microscope. Mark emphasises the importance of setting appropriate fees and maintaining a strong sense of direction to avoid regressing into earlier, more precarious phases.

Finally, the discussion shifts to the "pressure cooker" phase, when the demands on your small, agile team become too great, and you must begin transitioning to a larger, more structured organisation. With Mark’s insights, they discuss the value of robust systems and effective processes, such as those provided by Iceberg Digital, that can elevate an estate agency to operational excellence. Together, they examine how these key elements can help build a sustainable and financially free business, offering clarity on why seeking guidance and structure can be the defining factors in long-term success.

Iceberg Digital's SCOPE methodology offers not just a roadmap for growth but a framework for building a thriving, resilient estate agency. Whether you're in the early stages or ready to scale, this episode provides the insight and wisdom to move forward confidently in your entrepreneurial journey. Tune in and discover how to transform your business into a true success story.

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This isn’t just a conference, it’s a catalyst for those ready to lead dif

Sponsors of this podcast, Iceberg Digital are setting the standard in a world full of PropTech noise and AI buzzwords. 

With AI prospecting that finds listings before your competitors, marketing that wins instructions by putting your brand front and centre and a CRM that transforms how your team works, this isn’t just another tool, it's what leading estate agents use to stay ahead. 

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In this episode, we ask: How does Jamie Campbell from Campbell’s Estate Agents manage to blend tradition with innovation while commanding top-tier fees? Jamie shares how moving from marketing to property sales taught him that genuine relationships and strong interpersonal skills far surpass formal education in achieving success in the estate agency world.

Campbell’s Estate Agents, close to 40 years since opening, has long been a pioneer in estate agency marketing, from early experiments with coloured photography in newspaper ads to today’s cutting-edge social media campaigns and property videos. Jamie discusses the challenges of staying ahead in an industry often resistant to change, and how Campbell’s has remained relevant by embracing innovation while staying true to its roots. Our conversation explores the importance of personalised service through technology, the differing strategies between employed and self-employed agents, and why being a 2% estate agent is not only achievable but essential for delivering premium service and results. For Campbell’s, quality over quantity is not just a mantra; it’s a key strategy that justifies their top-tier fees.

We also explore the balance between self-employment and the structured support of a well-established brand, ensuring consistency whilst being creative and integrating technology without losing the personal touch. Jamie’s insights are invaluable for anyone in the estate agency business or those interested in the delicate balance between tradition and modernity in this field. His story is a powerful reminder that hard work, dedication, and a curious mindset can drive success and innovation in even the most competitive industries.

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This isn’t just a conference, it’s a catalyst for those ready to lead dif

Sponsors of this podcast, Iceberg Digital are setting the standard in a world full of PropTech noise and AI buzzwords. 

With AI prospecting that finds listings before your competitors, marketing that wins instructions by putting your brand front and centre and a CRM that transforms how your team works, this isn’t just another tool, it's what leading estate agents use to stay ahead. 

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What if you could turn your estate agency into a powerhouse in this fiercely competitive market?

This episode of Estate Agency X delivers just that, featuring Mike Symes, a highly experienced marketing and brand strategist and published author. Formerly Head of Marketing at Bank of New York Financial and CEO of Financial Marketing Limited. Mike delves into the critical facets of branding, illustrating how estate agents can stand out by identifying their unique core essence and values. Learn how focusing on emotional connections with clients and embracing your distinct strengths can help you command the fees you deserve and attract your ideal clientele.

We tackle the common pitfalls estate agents face, such as offering similar services and expecting different results. Discover how to effectively segment the market and use the concept of "co-opetition" to create collaboration with competitors, ultimately leading to mutual referrals and a healthier business environment. Mike underscores the necessity of brand consistency and shares engaging stories that illustrate how both technology-driven and personal-touch strategies can set agents apart in the industry.

In addition, we explore the importance of emotional connections in branding, referencing key insights from behavioural economics and real-world examples. From personalised testimonials to advanced technology that tailors client interactions, we provide actionable strategies to enhance your brand's presence and client engagement. This episode will provide insights for estate agents aiming to build a strong brand identity, offering practical advice on everything from market differentiation to creating a consistent, memorable brand that resonates with clients.

Mike Symes will be one of our guest speakers at our Estate Agency X 9 Conference on 4th October in London. To see him live, secure your seat today! Click here

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Join us on 3rd October 2025 at Everyman Broadgate, London for a full day of high-impact sessions on AI, branding, culture, performance and leadership. Hear from headline speakers Mark Burgess, Daniel Priestley, Mike Bates, Sapna Pieroux, and 11 other world-class estate agency guests and panel speakers.

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Sponsors of this podcast, Iceberg Digital are setting the standard in a world full of PropTech noise and AI buzzwords. 

With AI prospecting that finds listings before your competitors, marketing that wins instructions by putting your brand front and centre and a CRM that transforms how your team works, this isn’t just another tool, it's what leading estate agents use to stay ahead. 

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Join Mark and Rob as they chat with Toby Carter, the Sales and Marketing Director at Iceberg Digital, who brings over 16 years of estate agency expertise to the table. Toby shares his inspiring journey from selling gym memberships to leading dynamic sales teams, unveiling the relationship-focused strategies that have defined his success.

Toby delves into the game-changing shift from chasing quick sales to nurturing enduring client relationships, a change that can revolutionise your business. He highlights the crucial role of personal development and cutting-edge technology in staying ahead in this ever-evolving industry.

Understand how to maximise lead conversion rates by distinguishing between Marketing Qualified Leads (MQLs), Sales Qualified Leads (SQLs), and Sales Applied Leads (SALs). Toby provides insights into Iceberg Digital’s state-of-the-art CRM and marketing platforms, and how tools like Neuron and Uzair, can refine your sales approach.

With a focus on structured processes and personalised client journeys, this episode offers invaluable tips for boosting both your short-term and long-term sales strategies. Tune in to learn how to effectively manage and convert your leads, ensuring sustained business growth.

Don’t miss out on this opportunity to increase your sales tactics and achieve lasting success in the estate agency industry. 

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Get ready to revolutionise your estate agency business as we uncover the secrets to "Mastering the New Era" at the Estate Agency X9 event. In this episode, we sit down to discuss an exclusive sneak peek into what attendees can expect. With previously successful events, we dissect the six fundamental pillars—alignment, sales, marketing, brand, performance, and operations—that will be the cornerstone of this year's discussions. Learn how new technologies, post-COVID market adjustments, and the rise of the self-employed model are shaping the future of estate agencies, and walk away with actionable strategies from expert panel discussions that will help you navigate these transformative times.

Scheduled for October 4th in London, this event promises to offer not just invaluable networking opportunities and comfortable chairs but also a condensed version of our successful business accelerator programmes playbook.