Brian Whetten is a leadership coach, author of Yes, Yes, Hell No! and the founder of Core Coaching. He’s spent the last 25 years reverse-engineering how some of the most successful entrepreneurs combine high consciousness with high agency. Along the way he’s discovered what separates people who just talk about consciousness from those who actually overcome “the wall” to unite power, consciousness, and integrity to create lasting value.

Much of our conversation centered around the image below that sparked our relationship and the inspiration for the episode title. Most people get stuck choosing between spiritual bypass and achievement addiction, never figuring out how to integrate both dimensions successfully to embody the illusive “agentic sage” territory. Brian does an incredible job sharing how you can move to the top right and expand your leadership to integrate the best of both worlds.

For full show notes: https://blog.scottbritton.me/s/evolutionfm-podcast

🌀This podcast is sponsored by Conscious Talent - where business leaders and companies who value both inner work and professional excellence connect. Learn more and join the Conscious Talent network here: https://www.conscioustalent.com/

(00:00) The Journey to High Agency and Consciousness (02:46) Navigating the Wall: Challenges in Growth (05:52) Understanding the Dimensions of Life (08:42) The Role of Consciousness in Business (11:54) The Frustration of Spiritual Awakening (14:45) The Struggle of Conscious Entrepreneurs (17:44) The Dilemma of Spiritual Coaches (20:52) Wealth and Its Impact on Meaning (23:51) Problems of Excess vs. Problems of Lack (26:44) The Nature of Power and Leadership (29:31) The Relationship Between Power and Value (37:06) Power and Leadership: The Balancing Act (40:24) Creating Value: The Purpose of Power (44:22) Pride and Power: The Dangers of Excess (48:01) Healing the Inner Wall: The Journey to Freedom (54:09) Proving Worth vs. Providing Value: The Conscious Business Trap (01:04:42) Navigating the Poor but Pure Phenomenon (01:11:56) The Meaning of Life and Abundance (01:12:25) Solving Problems: The Key to Growth (01:15:04) The Cycle of Giving and Receiving (01:16:49) The Value of Revelation and Growth (01:17:47) Pushing Against the Wall vs. Being Pulled Through (01:19:58) The Importance of Community and Containers (01:24:38) The Three Keys to Spiritual Growth (01:36:05) Creating Mature Faith Without Suffering (01:40:16) Building Scalable Containers for Growth

Dr. Srikumar Rao is the founder of The Rao Institute, a celebrated TED speaker and bestselling-author who created the pioneering Creativity & Personal Mastery course. A program so impactful it has remained the only business school course in the world with its own alumni association. It is taught at Columbia Business School, London Business School, Kellogg, and Haas (UC Berkeley).

In this conversation, we explore how someone teaches the dissolution of the separate self to future business leaders. Dr. Rao's approach challenges the very foundation of Western achievement culture by showing high performers that their greatest breakthroughs come not from being better doers but from recognizing they're not doers at all.

For full show notes: https://blog.scottbritton.me/s/evolutionfm-podcast

🌀This podcast is sponsored by Conscious Talent - where business leaders and companies who value both inner work and professional excellence connect. Learn more and join the Conscious Talent network here: https://www.conscioustalent.com/

(00:00) The Power of Letting Go (03:04) Understanding Tension and Resistance (05:50) The Role of Action and Acceptance (08:41) Free Will vs. Destiny (11:27) The Purpose of Human Existence (14:11) Tools for Awakening (17:02) The Impact of Presence (19:54) Surrendering and Performance (22:39) Navigating Obstacles (25:33) Mental Models and Their Influence (30:29) The Power of Perspective in Life's Challenges (32:47) Evaluating Mental Models: True or Useful? (33:57) Starting Your Journey with Mental Models (34:15) The Dance of Co-Creation with the Universe (36:14) Letting Go of Doership for True Happiness (37:56) The Flawed If-Then Happiness Model (39:28) Finding Happiness in Acceptance (41:17) Managing Mental Chatter for Inner Peace (45:55) Creativity as a Natural Outcome of Passion (48:42) Being a Vessel for Change

Chip Conley is the founder of Modern Elder Academy, the world's first midlife wisdom school, and a bestselling author who has become the leading voice on conscious aging and midlife transformation. Before creating this revolutionary educational platform, he spent 24 years building Joie de Vivre into the second-largest boutique hotel company in the US then joined Airbnb at age 52 as the strategic advisor to the founders. He helped guide the startup to become the world's most valuable hospitality company.

In this conversation, we explore Chip's complete reinvention journey and the practical framework he's developed for midlife transformation. We discuss the neuroscience of aging, the shift from ego to soul-driven living, and how to leverage accumulated wisdom in new contexts.

I've always been fascinated by people who successfully reinvent themselves, especially later in life when it seems riskier and harder. Chip represents the gold standard. His journey from hotel mogul to tech sage to wisdom educator offers a practical blueprint for anyone feeling stuck in their current identity and ready for something new.

For full show notes: https://blog.scottbritton.me/s/evolutionfm-podcast

🌀This podcast is sponsored by Conscious Talent - where business leaders and companies who value both inner work and professional excellence connect. Learn more and join the Conscious Talent network here: https://www.conscioustalent.com/

(00:00) Introduction & Defining the Modern Elder (01:38) From Ego to Soul (03:31) A Near-Death Wake-Up Call (05:34) The U-Curve of Happiness (09:20) Midlife Crisis or Midlife Chrysalis (13:20) Redefining Midlife (16:19) Self-Worth, Bracing, and Overachievement (19:00) From Attaining to Attuning (22:02) Resilience vs. Adaptability (23:37) Can You Achieve from Attunement? (27:23) Lessons from Airbnb (30:55) Ripples of Impact (34:22) Living Soul-Led (39:30) Where Are the Elders? (43:15) Sharing Wisdom Across Generations (45:15) Knowledge vs. Wisdom

Eben Britton is a former NFL offensive lineman turned spiritual teacher, podcast host, and breathwork facilitator who spent six years in the league before embarking on a profound journey of personal transformation. After leaving football in 2014 at 328 pounds, Eben has become a yoga teacher, men's group leader, and retreat facilitator who helps others navigate their darkest moments.

In this conversation, he shares that rock bottom isn't the end of your story. It's often the beginning of your real one. What struck me most about our conversation is how Eben has learned to treat every breakdown as a breakthrough in disguise, transforming his most painful moments into his greatest sources of wisdom and service.

For full show notes: https://blog.scottbritton.me/s/evolutionfm-podcast

🌀This podcast is sponsored by Conscious Talent - where business leaders and companies who value both inner work and professional excellence connect. Learn more and join the Conscious Talent network here: https://www.conscioustalent.com/

(00:00) The Journey Begins From Football to Spiritual Awakening (09:21) Facing Inner Demons: The Struggle with Addiction (19:17) The Illusion of Progress: Finding Clarity in Chaos (28:37) Taking Responsibility: The Power of Choice (38:07) Navigating Life's Crossroads: Trusting Your Inner Guidance (47:47) The Balance of Work and Purpose: Finding Meaning in Action

Allyn Evans is the CEO of the Monroe Institute, an organization that has cracked the code on rapid consciousness development. For over 50 years, they've been using revolutionary audio technologies to guide ordinary people into extraordinary states of awareness that typically take monks 25+ years to achieve.

This isn't a new age fantasy. We're talking about measurable, repeatable experiences backed by decades of scientific research and validated by thousands of participants including scientists, medical doctors, and engineers.

In this conversation we talked about how to access superhuman consciousness with technologies that can get you there safely in days and does not require a lifetime of discipline.

For full show notes: https://blog.scottbritton.me/s/evolutionfm-podcast

🌀This podcast is sponsored by Conscious Talent - where business leaders and companies who value both inner work and professional excellence connect. Learn more and join the Conscious Talent network here: https://www.conscioustalent.com/

(00:00) Exploring the Monroe Institute (03:00) The Mission and Impact of the Monroe Institute (05:46) Understanding Altered States of Consciousness (08:56) The Role of Sound Technology in Meditation (11:34) Experiencing Different Focus Levels (14:50) Psychedelics vs. Sound Technology (17:46) The Evolution of Hemi-Sync Technology (20:25) Scientific Insights and Mystical Experiences (23:25) Developing Consciousness Skills (26:49) The Future of Consciousness Practices (29:48) Expanding Access to Consciousness Tools (32:30) The Journey of Remote Viewing

This episode is a little different. My dear friend Tracy Lawrence, who is an extremely talented entrepreneur and executive coach, hosted me on her platform to discuss my new business Conscious Talent and the intersection of inner work and professional excellence.

We both talk about our experience blending these two worlds as founders, and how we see the future evolving as this type of integrated path becomes more normalized. I enjoyed the conversation so much I wanted to republish it here. I hope you enjoy it!

For full show notes: https://blog.scottbritton.me/s/evolutionfm-podcast

🌀This podcast is sponsored by Conscious Talent - where business leaders and companies who value both inner work and professional excellence connect. Learn more and join the Conscious Talent network here: https://www.conscioustalent.com/

(00:00) The Genesis of Conscious Talent (02:56) Bridging Spirituality and Business (05:53) The Role of Conscious Leadership (08:59) Finding the Right Fit: Inner Work in Hiring (11:50) Assessing Consciousness in Executives (15:04) The Risks of Inner Work in Business (20:46) Balancing Love and Excellence in Company Culture (24:16) Hiring for Personal Development and Inner Work (29:00) The Impact of Inner Work on Business Practices (32:38) Longing as a Source of Intelligence (36:57) Business as a Spiritual Practice

Dr. Tucker Peck is a clinical psychologist and meditation teacher who brings a unique perspective to the intersection of Western therapy and Eastern contemplative practices. With a PhD in clinical psychology focused on meditation research and decades of teaching experience across the globe, Tucker offers a grounded approach to combining psychological work with spiritual development.

I've been getting this question a lot from listeners lately: "Should I do therapy or should I meditate?" It's usually asked with the assumption that you have to pick one path or the other. People seem to think therapy and meditation are competing approaches to wellbeing where one is better than the other.

In this conversation, Dr. Tucker makes a compelling case for why forcing yourself to choose between these approaches might be exactly what's keeping people stuck. His perspective as someone who has mastered both worlds offers a refreshing take on an old debate.

For full show notes: https://blog.scottbritton.me/s/evolutionfm-podcast

🌀This podcast is sponsored by Conscious Talent - where business leaders and companies who value both inner work and professional excellence connect. Learn more and join the Conscious Talent network here: https://www.conscioustalent.com/

(00:00) The Intersection of Therapy and Spirituality (05:48) The Pitfalls of Solely Pursuing Spirituality (11:46) The Role of Introspection in Therapy (17:35) The Concept of Sainthood in Spiritual Practice (25:43) Exploring Jhanas and Spiritual Practices (38:23) Innovative Approaches to Meditation (46:05) Surrendering to the Laws of Physics

George Boyd is the founder of the Mudrashram Institute of Spiritual Studies and Mudrashram Publishing, author of 18 books, and a spiritual cartographer. Through the Mudrashram lineage, he reveals how it’s possible to see, understand, and even traverse all spiritual paths active on the continuum of consciousness in a single lifetime.

George’s story is fascinating. In 1983, he was empowered by masters of an emerging lineage to bring forth what might be the most comprehensive spiritual teaching system ever developed. He shares that there are 73 distinct spiritual paths active in human consciousness right now. And with the right approach you can access all of them. What drew me to George's work is my friend Ian. He’s a fellow entrepreneur whose path I deeply respect, so I decided to take the Mudrashram 10-week meditation course. I learned A TON.

In this conversation, we explore the scope of accessing multiple spiritual paths simultaneously, why most seekers are working on the wrong techniques for their current level, and how George's lineage provides a "bridge path" perspective that can see the entire spectrum of human spiritual potential.

For full show notes: https://blog.scottbritton.me/s/evolutionfm-podcast

🌀This podcast is sponsored by Conscious Talent - where business leaders and companies who value both inner work and professional excellence connect. Learn more and join the Conscious Talent network here: https://www.conscioustalent.com/

(00:00) Introduction to George's Spiritual Journey (02:53) Empowerment and the Mudra Ashram Lineage (05:54) Understanding the Consciousness Continuum (08:43) The Perspective of God and Spiritual Paths (11:35) Life Review and Spiritual Evolution (14:29) The Psychic Realm and Its Abilities (17:32) The Wisdom Plane and Karma (20:26) Latent Potentials and Past Lives (23:15) The Cutting Edge of Spirituality (26:28) Practical Application of Spiritual Evolution (33:42) Exploring Integral Meditation Techniques (38:05) Understanding Spiritual Imbalances (40:00) Defining Soul Purpose (42:00) The Role of Lineages in Spiritual Growth (45:02) Navigating Personal Will and Divine Guidance (48:28) The Big Picture of Spiritual Evolution (52:31) Identifying Your Spiritual Path (58:15) Resources for Spiritual Development

Ricky Williams is a former NFL star and Heisman Trophy winner. In 2004, he stepped away from football to explore consciousness, spirituality, and ultimately astrology.

Ricky has become a master astrologer who helps others discover their authentic path through his astrology apps Lila, ask Lila, and personal consultations. He's transformed astrology from entertainment into a sophisticated psychological tool for understanding your deepest motivations and living in alignment with your true nature.

In this conversation, we explore what it took for Ricky to walk away from a system that defined him and how he's come to define himself through his own direct experience. We also dive deep into how you can use astrology to discover your own truth and live a life guided by inner authenticity rather than external expectations.

For full show notes: https://blog.scottbritton.me/s/evolutionfm-podcast

🌀This podcast is sponsored by Conscious Talent - where business leaders and companies who value both inner work and professional excellence connect. Learn more and join the Conscious Talent network here: https://www.conscioustalent.com/

(00:00) Ricky's Journey to Consciousness (02:52) The Role of Astrology in Self-Discovery (05:59) Understanding Timing and Life Events (09:07) Astrology as a Tool for Personal Growth (12:03) The Intersection of Astrology and Authenticity (23:45) Finding a Better Narrative (25:17) Astrology as a GPS for Life (26:33) The Inner vs. Outer Self (29:02) Attracting Life Experiences (32:52) Conscious vs. Unconscious Living (36:25) Aligning with Purpose (39:14) Introducing Lila: A Tool for Alignment (44:03) Astrology: A Map of Consciousness

Dr. Sandra Rose Michael is the inventor of the revolutionary scalar wave technology called the Energy Enhancement System (EESystem). She has dedicated over 45 years to developing what may be the most advanced healing tech on the planet. I don’t say this likely. I have spent over 100+ hours in an EESystem and have been blown away at its impact on my body, as well as the miracle stories you can read all over the internet.

In this conversation, Dr. Michael shares her story of creating this technology and explains exactly how it works at the quantum level. She claims that it uses bio-photonic light and scalar waves to repair and activate dormant human potential stored within our DNA. This restores our DNA to its original blueprint and creates a natural environment for the body to heal and regenerate.

At some point in the future, I will do a full breakdown of my personal experience with the EESystem. One promising anecdote is that I just got my biological age report from Function Health, and I am 9 years younger than my actual age. I haven’t been dialed in on my health for the past few years so I think the EESystem has played a big role in this.

For full show notes: https://blog.scottbritton.me/s/evolutionfm-podcast

🌀This podcast is sponsored by Conscious Talent - where business leaders and companies who value both inner work and professional excellence connect. Learn more and join the Conscious Talent network here: https://www.conscioustalent.com/

(00:00) Introduction to Aloha and Healing Energy (02:59) Dr. Sandra's Unique Background and Early Influences (05:53) The Journey into Healing and Technology (09:12) Understanding the EE System: Energy Enhancement (12:03) Mechanisms of Healing: DNA and Energy (14:54) Real-Life Applications and Success Stories (17:55) The Role of Consciousness in Healing (20:57) The Importance of Energy and Environment (23:51) The Science Behind the EE System (27:13) The Future of Healing Technologies (48:02) The Power of Breath and Love (51:11) Healing Through Presence and Love (52:34) Navigating the Dark Night of the Soul (54:15) Embracing the Great Awakening (56:05) Unconditional Love and Spiritual Battles (58:32) Miracles and Spiritual Gifts Activation (01:00:55) Detoxification and Healing Technologies (01:11:03) The Cumulative Nature of Healing (01:15:06) The Importance of Personal Research (01:19:07) The Future of Healing Technologies