Around the Circle | An Enneagram Podcast

Excess | The Low Side of Our Motive | Part I


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What happens when our Enneagram type stops helping and starts hurting? In this live workshop, Katie and Jeff explore “Excess” – the low side of our core motive – and how each type ramps up its usual strategies until they begin to do damage to ourselves and the people we love.

We’re joined by folks from Texas to India to New Zealand as we define Excess, talk through our centers and stance, and then walk type by type through how this shows up in real life.


This is the first of two parts.


In this episode, you’ll hear Ones, Twos, Threes, and Fours share concrete stories of what it looks like when they overdo their motive, and how they’re learning to notice the red flags and move toward health.

In this session we cover:

  • A working definition of “Excess”
  • How dominant and repressed centers play into Excess for each type
  • Ones in Excess: rigidity, over-responsibility, resentment, and doing what no one asked you to do
  • Twos in Excess: over-managing relationships, self-righteous helping, martyrdom, and “do you still love me?” outreach
  • Threes in Excess: overdoing action, self-deception, image maintenance, and losing touch with a true sense of self
  • Fours in Excess: overindulging feelings, envy, dwelling vs depth, and getting stuck instead of creating
  • How stance and time orientation (past/present/future) shape our version of Excess
  • First steps out of Excess: courage for 4/5/9, wisdom for 1/2/6, moderation for 3/7/8

If you’ve ever thought, “I know my type… but I keep doing the same thing and it’s not working,” this one is for you. This video is Part One (Types 1–4); we’ll hit 5–9 in the next session.

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