When was the last time you asked yourself what your spirituality/faith is for? On this episode, Petra risks rattling a few cages with a message that doesn't sit alongside what wider society often tells us. Joining Petra to explore the purpose of faith is Arch-Bishop Justin Duckworth and Kate Hall (@ethicallykate on Insta).

Petra and Justin unpack their discussion that they had on Aotea/Great Barrier Island over summer. If you've been wondering what this conversation that we've been teasing since the start of the year is, here you go!

Producer Sam went looking for someone who puts their words into actions, and found Kate Hall, who goes by @ethicallykate online. Petra and Kate talk about what it looks like to let your values influence your actions, and how this can actually be super life-giving!

Haere mai!

Music:

• Anchin Kfu Ayinkash by Hailu Mergia and the Dahlak Band (used to end Justin's interview)
• Alright by Kendrick Lamar
• Stormy by Gabor Szabo (played during communion)
• Summer's End by Julie Byrne (played during the candle reflection)
• Losalamitoslatinfunklovesong by Gene Harris (played to end Kate's interview)
• No Ordinary Life by Matt Corby
• Interlude by Julie Byrne (played during the benediction)

The sacred text in this epsiode is Twenty-One Elephants by Scottie Reeve (pages 36-37)