Being Human with Steve Cuss

Fear, Curiosity, and the Power of Play


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We may not expect leadership experts, a Grammy Award-winning music producer, and a former USAID worker to have much in common. But as Steve and Lisa Cuss reflect on the past four episodes of Being Human, they discover a trio of themes arising throughout the conversations. 


Tune in as Steve and Lisa discuss words of wisdom from Uli Chi, Nathaniel Moller, Charlie Peacock, and Steve J. Cuss. They ponder the common threads of wondering what we do with fear, embracing curiosity, and exploring the intersection of playfulness and imagination. As they consider these poignant topics, Steve and Lisa offer insights into relational connection with ourselves, one another, and God.


Resources mentioned in this episode include:


  • Walking in Wisdom with Uli Chi
  • The Wise Leader by Uli Chi
  • T. S. Eliot
  • USAID’s Demise, Fighting Malaria, and Being the Church with Nathaniel Moller
  • Down the Rabbit Hole with Charlie Peacock
  • Roots & Rhythm: A Life in Music by Charlie Peacock
  • “Life Beyond Burnout with (Another) Steve Cuss
  • Liberated Leadership: Unmasking the Authentic Leader Within by Steve J. Cuss


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