In this episode of The Gaslight Effect Podcast, Dr. Robin Stern continues the limited series Conversations at the Edge—exploring what it takes to stay grounded, curious, and connected when conversations move into charged, uncertain, or deeply divided territory. Rooted in dignity and respect, the series invites us to make space for someone else's ideas without erasing, attacking, or diminishing the person across from us.

Robin is joined by two long-time Detroit journalists and thought leaders, Nolan Finley and Stephen Henderson, who spent decades on opposite sides of the editorial page—Nolan as a conservative voice at The Detroit News and Stephen as a progressive voice at The Detroit Free Press. Instead of letting ideology define their relationship, they built a genuine friendship and professional partnership, ultimately co-creating the Great Lakes Civility Project and co-authoring The Civility Book: A Guide to Building Bridges Across the Political Divide.

Together, they unpack why "agreeing to disagree" can become avoidance, and what it looks like to find value in disagreement without making it personal. They share the four pillars that have helped them sustain trust through heated debates—dropping assumptions, setting honest goals for conversation, practicing deep listening, and committing to the relationship over time. Robin connects their framework to emotional intelligence, including how strong emotions and today's fear-driven media environment can make civility feel harder—and why emotion regulation and curiosity can be the difference between disconnection and meaningful dialogue.

This is a practical, hopeful conversation for anyone navigating family dinners, friendships, workplaces, or communities in a polarized world—and looking for a way to stay in connection without sacrificing integrity.

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The Gaslight Effect

The Gaslight Effect Recovery Guide

Emotional Intelligence for School Leaders

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