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In this surprise revival of the Herding Tigers Podcast, we kick off a new direction with an exploration of what it means to "optimize" as leaders. We discuss the invisible drivers that cause organizational tension, challenging the idea that conflict always comes from personality clashes or miscommunication. Instead, we unpack the reality that everyone—ourselves included—is optimizing for something different, whether it’s stability, recognition, autonomy, craft, efficiency, or meaning.
We share real-world examples from recent events and provide a practical framework for understanding and talking about these optimization goals with our teams. The episode highlights why acknowledging these differences is essential for effective leadership, how to surface hidden motivations, and why conscious tension leads to better outcomes than underground misalignment.
Five Key LearningsFind your tribe! Check out Creative Leader Roundtable at creativeleader.net
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Leading creative people is one of the hardest jobs in any organization. Bestselling author Todd Henry (Herding Tigers, The Accidental Creative, and others) brings you practical strategies for creative leadership — from managing creative teams and building a culture of innovation, to helping your people stay prolific, brilliant, and healthy. Each episode delivers actionable insights on workplace creativity, team productivity, and what it really takes to unleash the full potential of the talented people around you.
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In this surprise revival of the Herding Tigers Podcast, we kick off a new direction with an exploration of what it means to "optimize" as leaders. We discuss the invisible drivers that cause organizational tension, challenging the idea that conflict always comes from personality clashes or miscommunication. Instead, we unpack the reality that everyone—ourselves included—is optimizing for something different, whether it’s stability, recognition, autonomy, craft, efficiency, or meaning.
We share real-world examples from recent events and provide a practical framework for understanding and talking about these optimization goals with our teams. The episode highlights why acknowledging these differences is essential for effective leadership, how to surface hidden motivations, and why conscious tension leads to better outcomes than underground misalignment.
Five Key LearningsFind your tribe! Check out Creative Leader Roundtable at creativeleader.net
Mentioned in this episode:
Listen to the Herding Tigers Podcast
Leading creative people is one of the hardest jobs in any organization. Bestselling author Todd Henry (Herding Tigers, The Accidental Creative, and others) brings you practical strategies for creative leadership — from managing creative teams and building a culture of innovation, to helping your people stay prolific, brilliant, and healthy. Each episode delivers actionable insights on workplace creativity, team productivity, and what it really takes to unleash the full potential of the talented people around you.

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