Ever wonder why you didn't see the danger coming?

This week, Dr. Leslie Dobson joins Dr. Kerry to unpack the psychological mechanisms that drive narcissistic and antisocial behavior—where they overlap, where they differ, and how they show up in relationships. We explore how predators groom their victims, why the legal system struggles to address coercive control, and the subtle tests that reveal danger long before violence occurs. 

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🔹 Red flags you're missing: how to spot pressure, boundary testing, and grooming before it's too late.

Dr. Dobson breaks down the early warning signs—from gold-toothed "tests" to rushed intimacy—and why trusting your intuition (even when you can't name what's wrong) could save your life.

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MORE ABOUT DR. LESLIE DOBSON

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Podcast: Intentionally Disturbing (iHeartRadio, available on all platforms)

Book: The Friend Cleanse: How to identify energy vampires, set boundaries & balance your glass of life - https://amzn.to/4oEKc54

DR. LESLIE DOBSON is a clinical and forensic psychologist specializing in dangerous personalities. With extensive experience working inside jails, prisons, and state hospitals—including assessments of high-risk sex offenders and violent psychopaths—Dr. Dobson brings rare expertise to understanding the dark side of human behavior. She now works in civil litigation, using her forensic training to expose manipulation and coercion in family court and beyond. Through her social media platforms and upcoming television projects, she educates the public about recognizing and protecting themselves from predatory individuals.

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Kerry Kerr McAvoy, Ph.D, a retired psychologist and author, is an expert on cultivating healthy relationships and deconstructing narcissism. Her blogs have been featured in Mamami, YourTango, Scary Mommy, and The Good Men Project. 

In Love You More, Dr. McAvoy gives an uncensored glimpse into her survival of narcissistic abuse, and her workbook, First Steps to Leaving a Narcissist, helps victims break free from the confusion common in abusive relationships. She hosts the Breaking Free from Narcissistic Abuse podcast and offers trauma-related advice on social media.

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