In this insightful episode of The Mark Divine Show, Mark is joined by Ranjay Gulati, a renowned Harvard Business School professor and influential business thinker. Together, they explore the true meaning of courage, debunking Hollywood stereotypes and discussing insights from significant figures like Nelson Mandela and Steve Jobs. Ranjay shares his research on courage in business and leadership, and delves into his experiences from his new book, 'How to Be Bold'. The conversation touches on personal stories, historic examples, and practical strategies to develop courage in the face of uncertainty. Don't miss this compelling discussion!

Key Takeaways: 

• What courage really is (and isn’t)
• How fear, uncertainty, and volatility can sharpen—not shrink—your leadership
• Why imagination and conviction are critical in today’s VUCA world
• How to build a “courage muscle” through training and community
• The difference between boldness and recklessness—and how to stay grounded in both business and life

Inspirational Quote: 

“Courage is the willingness to take bold, risky action to serve a purpose that you perceive to be worthy, usually in the face of an abiding fear.” - Ranjay Gulati

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Guest Links:

Website: https://ranjaygulati.com/

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ranjaygulati/

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ranjay-gulati/

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@RanjayGulati

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Timestamps:

00:00 Defining Courage: Beyond Hollywood Stereotypes

01:01 Introduction to the Mark Dev Divine Show

01:29 Guest Introduction: Ranj Gulati

02:42 Understanding Courage: Insights from Nelson Mandela

03:29 Facing Fear: Lessons from the Navy SEALs

04:34 Psychological Perspectives on Courage

06:47 VUCA: Navigating Volatility, Uncertainty, Complexity, and Ambiguity

11:56 Personal Anecdotes: Courage in Action

19:49 The Role of Conviction in Courageous Actions

22:31 Courage in the Age of AI and Uncertainty

26:34 Educational Shifts: From Knowledge to Human Development

27:51 The Role of Courage in Personal Growth

28:32 Navigating Disruptive Change with AI

29:35 The Future of Human Skills

32:16 Imagination vs. Vision in Leadership

33:51 The Importance of Creativity and Courage

38:09 Support Systems for Courage

50:21 Balancing Boldness and Recklessness

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