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Despite traveling to 102 countries and scuba-diving with shark countless times, writer and travel expert Lisa Niver wouldn’t call herself “brave”. She prefers “brave-ish”. As Lisa explains in her memoir Brave-ish: One Breakup, Six Continents and Feeling Fearless After Fifty, cultivating bravery is like planting seeds—it takes patience and practice to see it grow. Years later, the fruits of those seeds have led Lisa on an incredible journey of self-discovery, adventure, and transformation.
In this captivating episode, Lisa reminds us that it’s never too late to live our own "Brave-ish" life, explore the world, and create the life we dream of. In addition, Erin and Lisa discuss:
OUR GUEST: Lisa Niver, an award-winning travel expert, has explored 102 countries on six continents. A University of Pennsylvania graduate, she spent seven years sailing with cruise lines like Princess Cruises and Royal Caribbean, and three years backpacking across Asia. Her articles appear in esteemed publications like AARP and WIRED, and she hosts the podcast Make Your Own Map, featuring interviews with figures like Deepak Chopra and Olympic medalists. With multiple journalism awards and finalist recognition, Niver is also a #3 travel influencer in 2023. She shares her insights on KTLA TV, YouTube (2 million views), and in her memoir "Brave-ish, One Breakup, Six Continents and Feeling Fearless After Fifty."
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You can find her book at: https://lisaniver.com/braveish/
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Despite traveling to 102 countries and scuba-diving with shark countless times, writer and travel expert Lisa Niver wouldn’t call herself “brave”. She prefers “brave-ish”. As Lisa explains in her memoir Brave-ish: One Breakup, Six Continents and Feeling Fearless After Fifty, cultivating bravery is like planting seeds—it takes patience and practice to see it grow. Years later, the fruits of those seeds have led Lisa on an incredible journey of self-discovery, adventure, and transformation.
In this captivating episode, Lisa reminds us that it’s never too late to live our own "Brave-ish" life, explore the world, and create the life we dream of. In addition, Erin and Lisa discuss:
OUR GUEST: Lisa Niver, an award-winning travel expert, has explored 102 countries on six continents. A University of Pennsylvania graduate, she spent seven years sailing with cruise lines like Princess Cruises and Royal Caribbean, and three years backpacking across Asia. Her articles appear in esteemed publications like AARP and WIRED, and she hosts the podcast Make Your Own Map, featuring interviews with figures like Deepak Chopra and Olympic medalists. With multiple journalism awards and finalist recognition, Niver is also a #3 travel influencer in 2023. She shares her insights on KTLA TV, YouTube (2 million views), and in her memoir "Brave-ish, One Breakup, Six Continents and Feeling Fearless After Fifty."
Want more Lisa? Find her online at http://wesaidgotravel.com/ and follow her on:
You can find her book at: https://lisaniver.com/braveish/
Want more Hotter Than Ever? Find us online at www.hotterthaneverpod.com and sign up for our mailing list! Follow us on:
Follow Hotter Than Ever wherever you listen to podcasts - we’re on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Stitcher, and more! That way you’ll never miss an episode.
We’d love to hear what you think about the show, too - it helps us know what stories are resonating with you. DM us on Instagram and write us a review!

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