As a society, we're more divided than ever. We don't listen to each other long enough to find common ground. To have a meaningful conversation, your listening skills need to be just as good as your talking skills. Celeste Headlee, journalist and author of We Need to Talk, knows how to have a conversation that matters. In the conversation I had with her, she opened my eyes to ways we all can be better communicators. Because at the end of the day, conversation is how we relate to each other as human beings.

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