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In this episode, I’m breaking down how to have a calm, productive conversation with someone you disagree with on every level — whether it’s politics at the dinner table, opinions that make your stomach flip, or that one family member who loves stirring the pot. The goal isn’t to convert anyone. It’s to protect your peace, communicate with clarity, and walk away proud of how you showed up. I’ll walk you through the exact framework I use: stop arguing the opinion and identify the need underneath it, shift from proving to understanding, and learn to “water your own garden” so you’re not wasting emotional energy trying to fix someone else’s. If you’ve got holiday dinners coming up, this one’s your armor.
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In this episode, I’m breaking down how to have a calm, productive conversation with someone you disagree with on every level — whether it’s politics at the dinner table, opinions that make your stomach flip, or that one family member who loves stirring the pot. The goal isn’t to convert anyone. It’s to protect your peace, communicate with clarity, and walk away proud of how you showed up. I’ll walk you through the exact framework I use: stop arguing the opinion and identify the need underneath it, shift from proving to understanding, and learn to “water your own garden” so you’re not wasting emotional energy trying to fix someone else’s. If you’ve got holiday dinners coming up, this one’s your armor.
Order The Next Conversation Workbook: https://www.jeffersonfisher.com/workbook
Thank you to our sponsors:
Cozy Earth. Upgrade Your Every Day. Get 40% off at cozyearth.com/jefferson or use code JEFFERSON at check out.
Try Gusto today at https://gusto.com/JEFFERSON, and get three months free when you run your first payroll.
BetterHelp. Click https://betterhelp.com/jeffersonfisher for a discount on your first month of therapy.
Order my new book, The Next Conversation, or listen to the full audiobook today.
Like what you hear? Don’t forget to subscribe and leave a 5-star review!
Suggest a topic or ask a question for me to answer on the show!
Want a FREE communication tip each week? Click here to join my newsletter.
Join My School of Communication
Watch my podcast on YouTube
Follow me on Instagram
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Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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