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God designed your brain to heal itself under the right conditions. How can we understand self-healing from a Christian perspective? What are the optimal conditions for self-healing? How can self-healing accelerate the process of outgrowing porn? In this episode, you'll not only get answers to these questions—you'll witness a powerful demonstration of Brainspotting with Drew Boa and Mike Chapman.

This episode was recorded at the 2026 Porn Free Man Conference sponsored by Husband Material Academy (HMA). Join HMA now at joinHMA.com

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What is Brainspotting? How can it help men heal and outgrow porn? Find out from Dr. David Grand himself! In this episode, you'll learn how Brainspotting works, why it's unique, and how it accelerates recovery from porn/sex addiction.

David Grand, PhD is the developer of Brainspotting, the groundbreaking relational brain-body, mindfulness-based method. He is the author of Brainspotting: The Revolutionary New Therapy for Rapid and Effective Change and the co-author of This is Your Brain on Sports. Dr. Grand has been widely featured in the media, including The New York Times, NBC National News, The Discovery Channel, CNN, MSNBC, Sports Illustrated, and Sirius Radio. 

Curious about Brainspotting?

• Read the book by David Grand
• Find a Brainspotter near you on the international directory
• Work with Mike Chapman, Dr. Doug Carpenter, or Drew Boa (who are all Brainspotting Practitioners and Certified Husband Material Coaches).
• Join HMA to witness the power of Brainspotting (and maybe even try it out yourself) at Fantasy Fridays.

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• Step 1: Listen to this podcast or watch on YouTube
• Step 2: Join the private Husband Material Community
• Step 3: Take the free mini-course: How To Outgrow Porn
• Step 4: Try the all-in-one program: Husband Material Academy

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What can the movie "K-Pop Demon Hunters" teach us about shame, hiding, and healing through vulnerability and connection? In this extended episode, Drew and his friend Andy offer an in-depth analysis of the film—addressing theological concerns, highlighting takeaways for sexual recovery, and tracing each character's redemptive journey. Enjoy!

Drew and Andy became friends at Wheaton College, serving together in college, church, and summer camp ministries. Andy has degrees in Christian theology and adventure-based experiential learning, and has been a participant and collaborator with Husband Material since 2023.

K-Pop Demon Hunters is available on Netflix. We recommend watching the "Sing-along" version.

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• Step 4: Try the all-in-one program: Husband Material Academy

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In this incredibly vulnerable episode, Nate Larkin tells the story of how he returned to lying, hiding, binge drinking, and destructive sexual behavior while leading a sexual recovery organization. You'll also hear Nate's wisdom on how to be vulnerable as a leader and the importance of telling the truth.

Nate Larkin is the founder of the Samson Society, a fellowship of Christian men who are serious about authenticity, community, humility, and recovery. Learn more at samsonsociety.com

Buy Nate's book: Samson and the Pirate Monks: Calling Men To Authentic Brotherhood

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• Step 2: Join the private Husband Material Community
• Step 3: Take the free mini-course: How To Outgrow Porn
• Step 4: Try the all-in-one program: Husband Material Academy

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What’s next for Husband Material? In this episode, you’ll hear the exciting new vision for how we want to help the next generation of young men and couples change their brains, heal their hearts, and save their relationships. 

Here’s how you can be part of it:

1. Pray: husbandmaterial.com/pray
2. Give: husbandmaterial.com/give

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Take the Husband Material Journey...

• Step 1: Listen to this podcast or watch on YouTube
• Step 2: Join the private Husband Material Community
• Step 3: Take the free mini-course: How To Outgrow Porn
• Step 4: Try the all-in-one program: Husband Material Academy

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How can technology help you connect, heal, and outgrow porn? In this episode, Chandler Rogers tells his story of finding freedom through connection with others (even online) and shares what he has learned from overseeing hundreds of online groups. You'll find out what you're missing out on if you track your sobriety without tracking your recovery—and what healthy, shame-free accountability looks like.

Chandler Rogers is the CEO and co-founder of Relay, a group-based program to break free from the unhealthy system of addiction and find lasting freedom.

• Join Relay at joinrelay.app (App)
• Listen to Beyond Sexual Brokenness (Podcast)
• Download The Official Guide To Overcoming Pornography (PDF)

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Take the Husband Material Journey...

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• Step 2: Join the private Husband Material Community
• Step 3: Take the free mini-course: How To Outgrow Porn
• Step 4: Try the all-in-one program: Husband Material Academy

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What exactly is arousal? Is it more than just sexual? In this episode, you'll learn the four types of arousal (uppers, downers, all-arounders, and deprivation) and how we use addiction to avoid intimacy ("into messy"). Along the way, you'll also find out why recovery is not a "don't touch your penis" program and how the skill of "tension holding" can transform your relationships. Great conversation!

Chris Chandler (LMHC, LPCC, EMDR, CSAT-S) is a licensed therapist, coach, and Clinical Advisor at Relay Health. He is also the founder of Christian Recovery Groups LLC, a national program helping men and women heal from compulsive and addictive behaviors through faith, community, and neuroscience-informed recovery practices. Over the past 20 years, Chris has led thousands through individual and group recovery experiences. His mission is simple: to restore people to wholeness by integrating clinical insight with authentic, Spirit-filled community because true recovery happens in relationship.

Schedule a 30-minute consultation with Chris here.

Andrew Engstrom is a Licensed Marriage and Family Therapist with Seattle Christian Counseling, where he helps individuals and couples heal by understanding themselves better first. Andrew is certified in MDFT (a holistic approach to counseling treatment) and uses PREPARE/ENRICH in pre-marital and marital counseling. He offers support and insight for overcoming obstacles that stand in the way of forming lasting, fulfilling relationships with others and God.

Learn more and connect with Andrew here.

See a preview of Chris and Andrew's intensives here.

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• Step 4: Try the all-in-one program: Husband Material Academy

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How do you see yourself? Do you ever feel like a villain, like everything is your fault? Do you ever feel like a victim, overwhelmed and powerless to change your life? Do you ever feel like a hero, as if you have to succeed because the whole world is depending on you? Today, we’re talking about how to see yourself accurately and understand yourself better through three lenses: your villain story, your victim story, and your hero story. These categories are inspired by “The Karpman Drama Triangle” by Dr. Stephen B. Karpman. The original drama triangle describes common patterns in dysfunctional relationships. I’ve adapted it for the context of story work for men outgrowing porn.

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• Step 4: Try the all-in-one program: Husband Material Academy

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In this episode, Doug and Drew explain their powerful, unique approach to psychodrama: DIRECT. You'll learn how this powerful modality can help you experience deeper healing and freedom from porn.

D.I.R.E.C.T. = Dynamic, Intuitive, Redemptive, Embodied, Communal Transformation.

Come experience D.I.R.E.C.T. at a Husband Material Healing Weekend!  See all upcoming healing weekends and retreats at husbandmaterial.com/retreat

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Take the Husband Material Journey...

• Step 1: Listen to this podcast or watch on YouTube
• Step 2: Join the private Husband Material Community
• Step 3: Take the free mini-course: How To Outgrow Porn
• Step 4: Try the all-in-one program: Husband Material Academy

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Why do adult men need sex education? What sexual changes do men's bodies go through as we get older? In this episode, Dr. Doug Carpenter explains what men need to know about low testosterone, urinary flow, sperm production, and more. You'll learn about the importance of prostate exams, the truth about penis size, the difference between sex in porn vs. sex in marriage, and other common misconceptions men have about sex.

Join us for sex education in person at the next Husband Material Retreat! husbandmaterial.com/retreat

Dr. Doug Carpenter is a clinical psychologist, author, and founding board member of Husband Material Ministries. Learn more at douglascarpenter.com

Buy Doug's books:

• Secret Shame: A Survivor's Guide To Understanding Male Sexual Abuse And Male Sexual Development
• Childhood Trauma and the Non-Alpha Male: Gender Role Conflict, Toxic Shame, and Complex Trauma: Finding Hope, Clarity, Healing, and Change

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Take the Husband Material Journey...

• Step 1: Listen to this podcast or watch on YouTube
• Step 2: Join the private Husband Material Community
• Step 3: Take the free mini-course: How To Outgrow Porn
• Step 4: Try the all-in-one program: Husband Material Academy

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