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As long as Matt wasn’t drinking like his father—and Steve wasn’t as bad as the people he grew up around—they could tell themselves they weren’t really alcoholics. There was always someone who had lost more, drank more, or looked more like the stereotype.

In this episode, Matt and Steve talk about how comparing your drinking to someone else’s worst consequences can keep you stuck. You don’t have to lose your job, your family, or everything you own before you’re allowed to admit alcohol is hurting your life. The better question isn’t whether you look like an alcoholic. It’s whether drinking has become a problem for you.

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