"When our view of reality is challenged, it can be traumatic.” In this conversation, Abram, Creek, and Drew talk with Jason Adam Miller (aka “J”), Lead Pastor of South Bend City Church. He offers brilliant and accessible insight into the roles that faith, belief, and tension play in life and encountering the enneagram. In this interview, Jason conveys a wise and caring way of holding space for doubt, tension, and questioning while still offering hope. [He also talks about pastoring a congregation amid this current wave of enneagram popularity.]

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“Navigating our inner depths…one fathom at a time.”

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Quote: “The only thing stronger than fear is curiosity” –Smallfoot (Film)

Quote: “We labor unceasingly to adorn and preserve this imaginary existence and neglect the real” –Blais Pascal

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Links:

• Jason’s Website

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Editing/Production: Seth Creekmore

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