Why are young catholics sent to conversion therapy? Does the Catholic Church discriminate against gay men? In today's episode, I tell my story of being rejected from becoming a monk for being gay - or as they like to say: experience same-sex attraction. My co-hosts Colin (raised FSSP) and Ben (discerned a vocation) help me explain where the church stands on this issue.

00:00:00 - Introduction: Gay Men and the Priesthood Controversy
00:00:30 - The Reality: Many Priests Are Gay
00:00:50 - Personal Stories: Discerning While Gay
00:01:17 - Church Teachings and the 2005 Document
00:03:13 - The Italian Bishops' Conference: What Was Actually Said
00:05:52 - Deep-Seated vs. Transitory Homosexual Tendencies
00:15:27 - Vocational Struggles for Gay Catholics
00:25:35 - The Church’s Role in Conversion Therapy
00:36:14 - Linking Homosexuality to Abuse: A False Narrative
(I got lazy about creating chapters beyond that mark, haha)

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Father Mike Schmitz (celebrity catholic priest) uses chairs to demonstrate teleology, and then makes anti-gay arguments from Theology of the Body. This approach fails in so many ways, and I don't think chairs are our best proof of teleology.

I (a gay ex-traditional catholic apologist) give my reaction to his wild takes on teleology. This is the talk that convinced me when I was much younger to not be gay, so I figured I'd be fun to start my video-essays with an emotional reaction to his talk.

00:00-01:12 - intro
01:12-03:35 - don’t violate the nature of things
03:35-04:44 - sex is only for procreation
06:44-08:44 - his brother came out as gay
08:44-10:33 - settle with just being friends
10:33-11:45 - just be happy
11:46-12:25 - my thoughts as a gay ex-catholic

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Let's dive deep into the Catholic Church's controversial teaching on contraception, its roots in outdated philosophies, and the societal impact of enforcing such dogma. From Humanae Vitae to the rise of "Theology of the Body," we'll critically examine how these doctrines shape attitudes toward birth control, women's rights, and personal autonomy. With years of theological study and firsthand experience within the Church, I explore why these teachings don't hold up under scrutiny—and why they're dangerous. Let's discuss how these views connect to the broader right-wing war on contraception and personal freedom.

00:00 - The Catholic Church’s Most Oppressive Document
01:05 - The Church’s Official Teaching on Birth Control
02:04 - Why Non-Catholics Should Care
03:03 - The Philosophy of Natural Law
05:51 - Debunking Natural Law
07:23 - Theology of the Body
10:00 - Scare Tactics and Misinformation
13:35 - The Church vs. Birth Control Science
15:48 - Natural Family Planning (NFP)
19:37 - The Global Consequences of Church Policy
21:42 - The Real Reason Behind Church Teachings
25:05 - The Hypocrisy of Church Leaders
27:30 - Empowerment Through Choice
29:33 - Closing Thoughts and Call to Action

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In this episode of Intrinsically Ordered, we sit down with a former Sedevacantist seminarian who opens up about his journey into one of Catholicism's most radical branches, his time in seminary, and the personal struggles that led him to leave the church altogether. From exploring the allure of certainty in faith to confronting deep-seated identity issues, this raw and eye-opening conversation delves into the intersection of belief, control, and personal freedom. Whether you're curious about high-control religious groups or seeking inspiration for your own journey, this episode offers thought-provoking insights and a powerful story of self-discovery.

00:00:00 - Introduction and Welcome
00:00:25 - What is Sedevacantism? A Quick Overview
00:01:54 - Growing Up Fundamentalist: A Journey to Catholicism
00:05:03 - Finding Sedevacantism Online and Entering Seminary
00:15:03 - The Struggles of Seminary Life and Identity
00:25:00 - Leaving Sedevacantism and Facing the Fallout
00:30:00 - Advice for Those Doubting or Leaving High-Control Faiths
00:33:40 - Life After Catholicism: Finding Happiness and Hope

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The Catholic Church offers no solution for queer folks who follow its teachings, besides celibacy. There is no proven, approved way that a catholic can life their life following church teaching without getting in trouble with the church or laity. Nobody can agree on what to do except wait for heaven.

00:00 - Intro
00:25 - Background Documents
01:41 - You Can't Be a Priest
03:44 - You Can't Get Married
04:29 - Singleness Isn't a Vocation
07:01 - You Can't Make Real Friends
09:13 - You Are Defective
11:46 - You're Their Guinea Pig
13:59 - Final Warning

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In this thought-provoking episode, we sit down with Barefooter, a minister in the Anglican tradition and a trans individual, to discuss their unique journey of faith and identity. From a childhood immersed in Protestant traditions to grappling with gender and sexuality, our guest explores the challenges of aligning personal truth with theological tradition. Join us for an honest and insightful conversation about theology, community, and the complexities of being fully human.

00:00 - Welcome and Introduction
00:06 - Barefoot Her's Religious Upbringing
00:27 - Personal Faith and Church Culture
00:56 - Discovering Gender Identity
02:00 - Theology, Tradition, and Gender
04:44 - Navigating Shame and Grace
07:12 - Faith as a Tool for Integration
11:37 - Final Reflections on Faith and Identity

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Join us as we dive deep with Brandon Robertson, a leading voice in progressive Christianity, to explore the intersection of faith, identity, and sexuality. From his journey out of evangelicalism to becoming a queer pastor and theologian, Brandon shares his challenges, insights, and the liberating message of his new book, Queer and Christian. Whether you're deconstructing your faith or seeking new perspectives, this episode will inspire and challenge your thinking.

To pre-order Brandon's book and connect with his work, visit http://queerchristian.org/.

00:00 - Welcome: Introducing Brandon Robertson and the topic of faith and sexuality.
00:11 - Brandon’s Journey: From evangelical roots to queer theologian.
00:52 - Finding God Beyond Boundaries: Brandon’s perspective on deconstruction and faith.
02:20 - What is God?: A Christian agnostic’s view of divinity.
04:45 - Challenges of Deconstruction: Facing fear and rebuilding identity.
08:10 - The Queer Community as Sacred Space: Embracing liberation and authenticity.
13:22 - Navigating Faith with Family: Balancing identity and tradition.
16:54 - The Future of Progressive Faith: Brandon’s vision and new book

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In this episode of Intrinsically Ordered, we sit down with an independent Catholic priest from the White Robe Monks of St. Benedict. Discover the story of how he found his calling in the independent Catholic movement, the challenges he faced as a queer person of faith, and the incredible work being done to bring compassion, inclusion, and spirituality to underserved communities. Whether you're curious about independent Catholicism, searching for spiritual connection, or inspired by stories of resilience, this episode offers deep insights and heartfelt conversations.

To talk directly with Father Eugene-Joshua, visit https://wrmosb.co.za/ or follow his Facebook Page: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61569011062968&mibextid=ZbWKwL

0:00 - Meet the White Robe Monks of St. Benedict
0:24 - What Is the Independent Catholic Movement?
1:08 - A Journey of Faith: From Pentecostalism to Independent Catholicism
8:28 - Balancing Queerness and Spirituality
20:22 - Compassionate Ministry: Serving the Community
28:45 - Finding Hope in Humanity and Faith
33:00 - How to Connect with an Independent Catholic Church

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In this deeply personal and thought-provoking episode of the Intrinsically Ordered Podcast, we’re joined by Kevin, who shares his journey of growing up in a strict Southern Baptist community while navigating his identity as a gay man. Kevin opens up about his struggles with faith, the emotional toll of reconciling religious teachings with his identity, and how he ultimately found peace and authenticity outside of organized religion. This is a story of courage, resilience, and the pursuit of truth.

To hear more from Keven, follow him on IG @kevenrafael__

00:00 - Welcome to the Intrinsically Ordered Podcast
00:12 - Meet Kevin: Southern Baptist Upbringing
00:25 - Childhood Faith and Religious Expectations
00:59 - Realizing Identity: Early Struggles
03:32 - Reconciling Faith with Sexuality
08:14 - Gradual Doubts and Intellectual Journey
16:00 - Deconstructing Religious Beliefs
28:00 - Finding Peace Outside of Faith

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The FSSP (Fraternitas Sacerdotalis Sancti Petri) is a little known group of traditionalist who lead me to trying to join an ancient order of Carmelites and never see the outside world again. These two groups have held onto the customs, beliefs, and practices of the high-medieval Catholic Church. Here's a psychological reflection on how high-control religions work.

00:00 - Intro
01:04 - Why I Was Susceptible
04:26 - A Sense of Belonging
06:37 - Weaponization of Language
08:53 - Simple Meta-Narrative
11:23 - Undiagnosed Neurodivergence
14:28 - Being in the Closet
15:53 - Cognitive Re-Programming
22:03 - Final Thoughts

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