We’re sharing something special with you this week: an episode of Pulling the Thread with Elise Loehnen. On her podcast, the New York Times–bestselling author sits down with today’s leading thinkers to try to answer life’s big questions: Why do we do what we do? How can we know and love each other better? What does it look like to live a meaningful life?

In this episode, Loehnen chats with the iconic therapist Esther Perel about what's underneath the conflicts in our relationships—what we're actually fighting about—and how we can turn those conflicts into connection.

You can listen to more of Pulling the Thread at: https://link.chtbl.com/PTT