This week’s conversation is with Shea Serrano, an author and journalist.

His books include The Rap Year Book, Basketball (and Other Things), and Movies (and Other Things), all three of which were New York Times best-sellers

Two of them were number one on the list and one was picked by Barack Obama as one of his favorite books of the year.

Shea is also known for his work with the sports and pop culture websites, The Ringer and Grantland.

This conversation is as real as it gets.

Shea used to be a teacher and he loved it -- but he couldn’t afford to take care of his family.

He had to figure out what else he could do and that led him to writing.

Shea’s story is about perseverance.

It’s about outworking the competition so he could provide for those closest to him.

It’s about pushing fear aside and going for it.

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