It's Not About The Money

It's Not About The Money

By Catherine MorganBusinessInvesting
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It's Not About The Money episodes

  • Why You Swing Between Controlling Money and Avoiding It (Fearful Avoidant Attachment)

    In this episode, I explore the emotional and psychological patterns behind money behaviors, focusing on the fearful avoidant attachment style. I share personal stories and signs to recognize these patterns, offering insights into how to notice and break free from cycles of financial anxiety and avoidance.

    Chapters

    00:00 Introduction to emotional money patterns 02:10 The ping-pong relationship with money 04:43 Signs of fearful avoidant attachment to money 07:10 Emotional triggers behind spending decisions 09:52 The cycle of control and avoidance 12:37 Why discipline alone doesn't fix money patterns 14:13 Building financial self-trust 16:41 The influence of childhood and upbringing 18:19 Moving towards balance and self-awareness 20:27 Practical steps to notice and pause

    Resources:

    Join the Money Circle - Our free monthly calls

    Discover The Body of Wealth

    Take the Money StoryTypes® quiz and discover your Money StoryType

    Watch episode one in this series: The 4 Money Attachment Styles (And How To Spot Yours)

    Watch episode two in this series: Why Knowing You're Financially Safe Doesn't Make You Feel Safe

    22 min
  • Why Knowing You're Financially Safe Doesn't Make You Feel Safe

    In this episode, I explore the emotional side of financial safety, attachment styles, and how our feelings about money often don't match our actual financial situation. I share insights on how to build trust in ourselves and experience financial security beyond numbers.

    Chapters

    00:00 Introduction to emotional safety and money

    02:01 The disconnect between financial facts and feelings

    03:49 Attachment styles and their influence on money behavior

    06:11 The anxious attachment style and fear of loss

    08:52 Trust, trustworthiness, and financial decision-making

    12:07 The impact of financial milestones on emotional safety

    15:13 Recognizing and sitting with financial discomfort

    18:09 The importance of lived experience over reassurance

    21:12 Building a secure relationship with money

    24:08 Practical steps to notice and bridge the gap

    Resources:

    Join the Money Circle - Our free monthly calls

    Discover The Body of Wealth

    Take the Money StoryTypes® quiz and discover your Money StoryType

    Attached by Amir Levine and Rachel Heller, and my episode on the best money books that aren't about money

    Catch up on my Who Do You Trust With Your Money episode

    Watch episode one in this series: The 4 Money Attachment Styles (And How To Spot Yours)

    26 min
  • The 4 Money Attachment Styles (And How To Spot Yours)

    In this episode, I explore how attachment styles influence our relationship with money, revealing patterns that can help us understand and improve our financial behaviors.

    Chapters

    00:00 Introduction and personal story

    01:07 Why attachment styles matter in money

    02:33 The four attachment styles and their relevance to money

    04:37 The anxious attachment style and its signs

    14:54 The avoidant attachment style and avoidance behaviors

    18:33 The cycle of financial yo-yoing and emotional patterns

    24:01 The secure attachment style and emotional regulation

    28:37 Recognizing your current attachment style and next steps

    Resources:

    Join the Money Circle - Our free monthly calls

    Discover The Body of Wealth

    Read Attached

    Catch up on last weeks episode - Who Do You Trust With Your Money

    Uncover the best books that teach you about money that are not money books

    32 min
  • Who Do You Trust With Your Money?

    In this episode, I delve into the complex relationship between trust and money. I explore who we trust with our finances, the importance of self-trust, and how our emotional attachments to money influence our financial decisions. The conversation highlights the need for a deeper understanding of our relationship with money, especially in times of uncertainty, and sets the stage for future discussions on money psychology and financial independence.

    Chapters

    00:00 Exploring Trust in Financial Relationships 08:08 The Importance of Self-Trust with Money 12:57 Understanding Attachments to Money

    Resources:

    Join the Money Circle - Our free monthly calls Discover The Body of Wealth

    15 min
  • Money, Independence and Caring For A Parent with Jayne Sibley, Sibstar

    financial tool supporting vulnerable individuals. This episode explores the importance of independence, safety, and innovative solutions in financial inclusion for at-risk groups.

    Chapters

    00:00 Introduction to Jane and her story

    01:45 Caregiving challenges and personal motivation

    04:12 The problem of financial management for vulnerable adults

    07:12 Experiences with scams and managing risks

    09:47 Initial workarounds and their limitations

    13:03 Deciding to create a solution and the journey to Dragon's Den

    17:10 The impact of public exposure and support from investors

    20:11 Why widening access to financial tools matters

    22:52 Features of the Sibstar debit card and app

    25:45 How to approach conversations about financial safety

    30:01 The social impact of empowering vulnerable populations

    32:57 Navigating caregiving responsibilities and financial planning

    35:14 Next steps for Sibstar and future collaborations

    36:12 Closing thoughts and encouragement for caregivers

    Resources:

    Join the Money Circle - Our free monthly calls

    Discover The Body of Wealth

    Learn more about Sibstar

    See Jayne on Dragon's Den

    Connect with Sibstar on LinkedIn

    Connect with Sibstar on Instagram

    Read How to talk about money with someone you care for

    38 min
  • The Part Of You That Doesn't Feel Worthy Of Money

    I explore the deep connection between worthiness and money, offering practical and mindset strategies to overcome financial fears rooted in systemic and personal beliefs. This episode provides insights into how to reframe your relationship with money and increase your capacity for abundance.

    Chapters

    02:10 Understanding Internal Family Systems and Money Blocks

    03:53 Systemic Influences on Women's Financial Beliefs

    05:57 The Power of Past Tense Visualization

    07:55 Using the Reticular Activating System to Achieve Goals

    09:53 Practicing Visualization and Role-Playing

    11:51 Recognizing Feelings of Excitement and Contraction

    14:11 The Role of EFT Tapping in Releasing Money Blocks

    15:57 Creating a Sense of Safety and Worthiness

    18:10 The Importance of Relaxing the Nervous System

    20:05 Practical Steps to Increase Worthiness

    21:52 Community Resources and Next Steps

    Resources:

    Join the Money Circle - Our free monthly calls

    Discover The Body of Wealth

    26 min
  • Why Irregular Income Feels Like Panic (Even in a Good Month)

    In this episode I explore how irregular income impacts emotional well-being and provides practical strategies to create financial stability. I share insights on managing money anxiety, establishing reference points, and building resilience with actionable tips.

    Chapters

    00:00 – Introduction to Irregular Income and Its Challenges

    00:28 – The Emotional and Physical Toll of Fluctuating Income

    01:22 – Three Numbers to Bring Financial Certainty

    04:18 – Why Earning More Doesn't Reduce Stress

    08:24 – An Alternative to Traditional Budgeting

    13:40 – Using Separate Accounts for Security

    18:32 – Regulating and Naming Money Feelings

    23:25 – Practical Tools and What's Next

    Resources:

    Join the Money Circle - Our free monthly calls

    Discover The Body of Wealth

    26 min
  • The Best Money Books Are Not About Money

    In this conversation, I explore the intricate relationship between money and emotions, emphasising how our financial behaviors are influenced by attachment styles, internal conflicts, inherited beliefs, and systemic issues. I discuss various books that have shaped my understanding of these connections, highlighting the importance of recognising the emotional and psychological aspects of money management.

    Chapters

    00:00 Understanding Money and Emotions

    02:45 Attachment Theory and Money

    06:01 Internal Conflicts and Money Behavior

    11:05 Inherited Patterns and Money Beliefs

    17:38 The Concept of Enoughness

    21:07 The Role of Systems in Financial Behavior

    Resources:

    Join the Money Circle - Our free monthly calls

    Discover The Body of Wealth

    BOOKS MENTIONED:

    1. Attached, by Amir Levine & Rachel Heller (2010)

    2. No Bad Parts, by Richard Schwartz (2021)

    3. It Didn't Start With You, by Mark Wolynn (2016)

    4. The Power of Enough, by Elizabeth Husserl (2025)

    5. Conscious Capitalism, by John Mackey & Raj Sisodia (2013)

    Plus: It's Not About the Money: 3 Steps to Become a Wealthy Woman, by Catherine Morgan

    24 min
  • How to Stop Worrying About Money: The One Question That Changes Everything with Jesse Mecham, founder of YNAB

    In this episode, Catherine is joined by Jesse Mecham who shares insights from his journey with money, the importance of understanding what money is for, and how to develop a healthy relationship with it through a simple yet powerful question: 'What is it for?' Discover practical frameworks and personal stories that can transform your approach to money.

    Chapters

    00:00 Introduction: Why Money Is More Than Numbers

    01:07 Jesse's Journey: From Basement Spreadsheet to YNAB

    02:20 Early Money Memories and Realizations

    04:45 Money as a Skill: Learning to Swim

    06:35 Aligning Money Decisions with Values

    08:23 Money as a Reflection of Self

    13:03 The Power of the Question: What's It For?

    17:00 The Framework of Five Money Pots

    23:22 Decentralization and Trust in Money

    33:59 Legacy and Personal Purpose in Money

    Resources:

    Join the Money Circle - Our free monthly calls

    About Jesse Mecham: Jesse Mecham is the founder of the beloved money app YNAB, bestselling author, and host of the top-rated podcast The Jesse Mecham Show. As seen in WIRED, Fortune, and The New York Times, Jesse is a leading voice in the personal finance space. He has helped millions of people get good at money and never worry about money again. He lives in Utah with his wife and family.

    Pre-Order your copy of Never Worry About Money Again

    Try YNAB free for one month

    36 min
  • 1 Letter That Can Change Your Relationship With Money (Audio)

    In this conversation, I explore the multifaceted relationship individuals have with money, emphasising the importance of understanding the different parts of oneself that influence financial behavior. I encourage listeners to shift from a fixed identity of being 'good' or 'bad' with money to recognising the various parts that contribute to their financial decisions. By fostering self-compassion and curiosity, individuals can navigate their financial patterns more effectively and create a healthier relationship with money.

    Chapters

    00:00 - You are not bad with money

    03:15 - Why old money patterns keep repeating

    05:30 - Three money parts you may recognize

    09:23 - How to respond with curiosity instead of shame

    Resources:

    Join the Money Circle - Our free monthly calls

    13 min

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