Swords, Football & Pints - proper lads chat this one! Jamie and Tom are joined by friend and sober legend Jamie Butler

Jamie has had a real interesting relationship with Alcohol over the years! A career in banking saw him drinking heavily as a young man, but as soon as he left his job, he dropped the booze. His mindset is about taking each day as he comes and being flexible - because of this he turned back to booze and sent it again! Now in his latest version of self, he has decided to leave it behind again and shares his lessons on why. This podcast is three sober geezas opening up about grief, friendship circles and mindsets around sobriety.

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