John Welbourn was a 10-year NFL veteran, with a professional career that spanned stops with the Philadelphia Eagles, Kansas City Chiefs, and New England Patriots. Since retiring, he’s become the founder of Power Athlete HQ.

In this very wide ranging show, John and I discuss the concept of the shovel and the spoon, how a silly bet on a bod pod measurement got him in the best shape of his life, why POWER is the name of the game in football, and what his training really looked like in the NFL.

I'll tell you this right now – this is a long show, and the language is a bit "colorful." But if you’re serious about developing football players and being entertained along the way, you’re going to love this show.

Here's a brief overview of what we covered in this show:

* How lifting in a garage gym got John started on his path to the NFL.

* An overview of his playing career, including his various stops across the league.

* What an NFL strength and conditioning program really looks like, and how it evolved over the course of a season.

* How his program has changed now that he's out of the league, but still trying to stay fit and strong.

* John's views on the evolution of physical preparation in the league over the past two decades.

* The biggest life lessons he learned from both football, as well as the iron game.

* According to John, why the Internet sucks with regards to training information.

* The BIG Question.

* A fun and story-filled lightning round, where we discuss his advice for potential NFL athletes, the books he's reading, the biggest freaks he played against in the league, and what's next for John Welbourn.