In this powerful episode, Gina welcomes back Dr. Deena Kara Shaffer, learning strategist and author, for a conversation that hits deep. Together, they explore why real change can feel so hard—especially when you want it more than anything. As the Livy Community steps into the downsizing week of The Program, the discussion gets real about food scarcity, fear of hunger, self-sabotage, and why it’s not just about what you eat, but how you relate to your body, your past, and your big, hopeful goals. With raw honesty and insight, Gina and Deena unpack purposeful frustration, the discomfort of growth, and the difference between just losing weight and actually healing. This one’s for anyone who's ever asked, “Why is it so hard to do the thing I know I want to do?”.

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Where to find Dr. Deena

Instagram: @awakenedlearning

Website: www.awakenedlearning.ca

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