Leaving Eden Podcast

Sadie takes us through the BITE model and discusses how cult control looks in an abusive relationship and how similar it is to Christian Fundamentalism.

00:00 - Intro

08:00 - Why are cults like abusive relationships?

12:27 - Behavior Control

17:30 - Written and unwritten rules

31:03 - Information Control

46:00 - Thought Control

52:48 - Emotion Control

59:00 - Queer Relationships

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In this episode, we go through seven major bible verses that are most often used to promote anti-LGBTQ hate within Christianity and alternate (and in some cases more accurate and reasonable) interpretations. Sadie's theory is that in these verses and that everywhere that "sexual immorality" is mentioned in the bible, there is an element of consent that is often ignored by evangelicals or Christians who would use the bible as justification to hate members of the LGBTQ community. Gavi's belief is that it doesn't matter whether or not these verses refer to homosexuality because discrimination and hatred are against the higher-priority biblical commandments to love thy neighbor.

These passages include Genesis 9, Genesis 19, 1 Corinthians 6, 1 Timothy 1, Romans 1, and Leviticus 18.

00:00 - Happy Pride!

05:25 - What are "Clobber verses?"

07:25 - Genesis 9, Noah's Ark and the Curse of Ham

15:18 - Genesis 19, Sodom and Gomorrah

27:02 - Romans 1, "A reprobate mind"

33:38 - 1 Corinthians 6, 1 Timothy 1

40:04 - Leviticus 18, "It is abomination"

42:40 - Kavod Habriyot, and human dignity

46:50 - Romans 13, "Love Thy Neighbor," and financial ethics

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In this episode, we discuss the emails sent between Josh and Anna Duggar between Josh's trial and sentencing in late 2021/2022.

The extended version of this episode which contains the discussion of NSFW emails sent between Josh and Anna is available at Patreon.Com/LeavingEdenPodcast

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In what is potentially the dumbest piece of content we have ever made, we present to you our duggar vehicles tier list. Yes, we made a tier list of every single vehicle mentioned in the Josh Duggar jail emails obtained by Lily Archive (the GOAT) by FOIA request. If you like this type of brainrotted nonsense, please tell us so we can make more of it.

Full tier list is located here, along with images of all of the cars (the tier list and pictures are not paywalled) https://www.patreon.com/posts/158887713

00:00 - Intro

07:48 - 2013 Toyota Tacoma

09:03 - 2006 Chevrolet HD2500 Duramax

12:12 - 2015 Chevrolet Tahoe

22:32 - Cadillac SRX 2WD

30:02 - Cessna 210 and 410

35:38 - Mitsubishi MU2

36:46 - Kubota Skid Steer and Tractor, Hino Dump truck

41:24 - Duggar motor home

42:38 - Black Limo from Copart

45:07 - BRING BACK THE EL CAMINO

47:36 - Honda Pilot

50:05 - Jana's Land Rover Discovery

58:43 - Duggar Bus

1:01:04 - 2015 Dodge Ram 1500 with hail damage

1:03:34 - 2006 Dodge (wrecked)

1:04:17 - Phenom 100 and helicopter

1:05:58 - Cadillac with a Northstar V8

1:14:44 - Honda dirt bike

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This past month, Josh Duggar's prison emails sent between his conviction in December of 2021 and his sentencing in June of 2022 were revealed to the public via FOIA request (Thank You Lily Archive). In this episode, we go through the emails sent between Joshua Duggar and his spiritual advisor, LaCount Reber. Joshua stayed with the Reber family when he was out on bail during his trial. These emails reveal the depths of Josh's ignorance about even the most basic tenets of Christianity. They reveal a lack of curiosity, and an inability to read coded messages sent to him as bible quotations, and an understanding of scripture that can be (charitably) described as rudimentary.

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In this episode, we discuss the mental gymnastics Fundies perform to say that drinking alcohol is a sin, even though Jesus turned water into wine. We go into the history of where the fundie taboo around drinking came from, how a social taboo became integrated into a religious doctrine, and why this makes zero sense.

In the Patreon extended edition, Sadie talks about her job working with at risk teens, and helping them identify abusive behaviors and how people can change abusive behaviors. https://www.patreon.com/posts/157928236

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00:00 - INTRO:

04:26 - Josh Duggar Emails

05:48 - SEND YOUR PRIDE STORIES TO US!

06:54 - Jesus' miracles

07:50 - Anti-Alcohol sentiment in Christianity

18:27 - Why did or didn't people drink alcohol in biblical times?

26:20 - Prohibition and the Scopes Monkey Trial

32:27 - Why are fundies stuck in the 1920s?

37:08 - Jesus turned water into... Grape Juice?

38:35 - He turned the water into Lean

39:35 - How the fundies convince themselves that Alcohol is bad

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Chad joins us once again to talk about OTHER bible stories about King David and his family, and what lessons fundamentalists take from them. We examine why King David is seen as such a great king despite the many failures of his rule and the mess that was his family. We discuss Absalom's rebellion, Tamar's assault, and the ??? story that is the story of Abashag.

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In today's episode, Sadie discusses the recent article in Vanity Fair about Hyles-Anderson College, which she attended from the fall of 2011 until the spring of 2013. While this article did a good job of explaining what makes this college so controlling, we felt that this subject would have been better served with a longer-form piece that focused more on the deeper aspects of control rather than JUST the dress code.

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/story/the-college-for-trad-wives?srsltid=AfmBOopagpD8okZIVAWJdyk7Svyax_rmS8qF4xH0n2dryDQj7eEVtsRL

00:00 - Intro

05:23 - Tradwives

07:43 - Rules for men vs. women

09:43 - MRS Degrees

14:58 - The IFB

20:23 - The Curriculum

28:01 - Bus Routes

33:12 - How Sadie Almost got expelled

38:08 - What the Vanity Fair could have done better

42:48 - Why some people don't make it

44:46 - This is an insular culture

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In this episode, we discuss Josh Duggar's attempt to vacate his conviction and secure a new trial based on the theory that Caleb William was the guilty party in his crime. We discuss his issues with filing deadlines, as well as how quickly Josh's sentence has gone by.

We also discuss the statement released by the Caldwell Family regarding Joe Duggar's alleged crimes, what this says about their current situation and their relationship with Kendra.

Sadie also talks about Pete Hegseth and the Pulp Fiction fake bible quote.

The Patreon extended version of this episode includes Sadie recording a parody of the 2014 Michelle Duggar robocall in which Michelle Duggar fearmongered about trans people in bathrooms.

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https://www.patreon.com/posts/156103157

00:00 - Intro:

04:16 - A correction and a clarification

07:05 - WE DO NOT SPECULATE OR IDENTIFY THE VICTIM

15:27 - Josh Duggar is trying to get out of prison (AGAIN)

23:58 - Prison Mailbox rule

29:35 - The timing is impeccable and Jack Schaap

34:09 - Josh's sentence is FLYING by

38:14 - Pete Hegseth and the Pulp Fiction "Bible" Quote

46:56 - Caldwell Family Statement

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In this episode, we discuss Christian beliefs around taxation, as well as why some fundamentalist Christians like Kent Hovind have opted for a sovereign citizen defense. At the end of the episode, we discuss the creative ways that Jim Bob Duggar has avoided taxation by passing his tax burden off onto his children.

Source images are located on this Patreon post (the sources are not paywalled) https://www.patreon.com/posts/are-christians-155188116

00:00 - Intro

02:00 - Intro

03:43 - Tax season

04:31 - Kent Hovind, Dinosaur Adventure Land, Structuring

08:34 - Render Unto Caesar

12:05 - Romans 13 and historical context

16:39 - Sovereign citizenship

20:00 - The 14th Amendment

23:14 - Suing the IRS

25:46 - Convicted!

29:50 - Jim Bob Duggar

32:24 - The clobber verses vs. financial ethics

34:04 - Magical Thinking

37:15 - Gavi's Flow Chart

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