We're in the middle of the winter season here in Aotearoa New Zealand right now, but have you ever gone through a time in life that felt like a winter? They can arrive following a death, a job loss, a disappointment, as a result of something else or out of nowhere! Everyone will experience times like these, so whether you're in a winter now or not, we made this episode for you.

In this episode of Sunday Sanctuary, Petra is joined by three guests. Up first is Horowhenua based GP and poet Glenn Colquhoun. Next, Petra talks to spiritual director Margaret Tooley. Lastly (and most excitingly for Petra), she talks to Australian cartoonist, poet and author Michael Leunig. Haere mai! Join us for an exploration of life's winters, what we can do about them, and what we can learn by "getting out into them".

Sacred text:

An edited passage from Let Your Life Speak by Parker Palmer

Featured music:

• Mr Sun by Greentea Peng
• A Forest by The Cure (played during scared text)
• Fold by Jose Gonzalez (played during scared text)
• Innerspace by The Apples in Stereo (played during scared text)
• Turn! Turn! Turn! by The Byrds
• Zionsville by Khruangbin (played at end of episode)