Lise and Sarah

Welcome to Lise & Sarah's 'INNER CIRCLE', where they riff and rib each other about the week that was, what's going on in their own lives, and everything in between.

CREDITS:

Hosts: Lise Carlaw and Sarah Wills

Producer: Annabelle Brett @a.b__baby

CONTACT:

Email: [email protected]

Instagram: @liseandsarah

Facebook: Those Two Girls

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Journalist and best-selling author Frances Whiting is a self-declared late bloomer: she had her first child at 40, her second at 45 (a total surprise!), and scored an international book deal at 50. In FORTY, Franny talks us through the decade that involved losing her embarrassment reflex, longing for a teeny-weeny hospital stay, discriminatory dolphins, kerbside collection disasters, and becoming a self-appointed shampoo influencer. Plus, in-between the quips and wit that made readers fall in love with her over the past 25 years, she shares touching insights on patterns of life at 40+, as well as practical advice for all women via her 96-year-old mother, Shirley!. 

So, what happens when everything you didn't think would happen for you, happens?

We find out in FORTY.

CREDITS: 

Hosts: Lise Carlaw and Sarah Wills

Guest: Frances Whiting 

Instagram: @frankywhiting

Producer: Annabelle Brett @a.b__baby

CONTACT: 

Email: [email protected]

Instagram: @liseandsarah

Facebook: Those Two Girls  

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Welcome to Lise & Sarah's 'INNER CIRCLE', where they riff and rib each other about the week that was, what's going on in their own lives, and everything in between.

CREDITS:

Hosts: Lise Carlaw and Sarah Wills

Producer: Annabelle Brett @a.b__baby

CONTACT:

Email: [email protected]

Instagram: @liseandsarah

Facebook: Those Two Girls

See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Welcome to Lise & Sarah's 'INNER CIRCLE', where they riff and rib each other about the week that was, what's going on in their own lives, and everything in between.

CREDITS:

Hosts: Lise Carlaw and Sarah Wills

Producer: Annabelle Brett @a.b__baby

CONTACT:

Email: [email protected]

Instagram: @liseandsarah

Facebook: Those Two Girls

See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Meshel Laurie is a surprise package. From rescuing cats to being an ambassador for Dalai Lama, there’s nothing this media all-star can’t do. Her stand-up comedy chops led her to top jobs in radio, television, podcasting and publishing, but despite the many hats she wears, Meshel’s life in her forties is streamlined and simple; her raison d’etre, service.

Meshel’s stories are as varied and engaging as she is – from her early years as a receptionist in a transexual brothel learning to steam wigs and master liquid eyeliner, to her passion for forensic medicine and true crime, the Buddhist mother of IVF twins opens up about finding joy in her forties, growing out of career jealousy, and why her age doesn’t actually mean a thing to her.

So, what happens when you decide to simplify your life in search of clarity?

We find out in FORTY.

LINK IN BIO

@meshel_laurie

CREDITS:

Hosts: Lise Carlaw and Sarah Wills

Guest: Meshel Laurie

Instagram @meshel_laurie

www.meshellaurie.com/

Producer: Annabelle Brett @a.b__baby

CONTACT:

Email: [email protected]

Instagram: @liseandsarah

Facebook: Those Two Girls

See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Welcome to Lise & Sarah's 'INNER CIRCLE', where they riff and rib each other about the week that was, what's going on in their own lives, and everything in between.

CREDITS:

Hosts: Lise Carlaw and Sarah Wills

Producer: Josh Sanders @thekernal_1

CONTACT:

Email: [email protected]

Instagram: @liseandsarah

Facebook: Those Two Girls

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Megan Daley was excited to turn 40 –she and husband Dan were in the sweet spot of parenting years with their two daughters in primary school, she was working at the school of her dreams, and plans for overseas holidays and home renovations were coming to fruition. 

Everything changed during a weekend away when her beloved Dan died from a sudden heart attack.  

At 40, Megan became a young widow. 

Grief enveloped her like a heavy black coat as she tried to come to terms with her new reality. Family and friends rallied about the much-loved teacher-librarian and did their best to protect her as she grieved. 

But, in addition to the overwhelming emotional burden, there were practical aspects only Megan could - and continues to - work though: from joint bank accounts being frozen, to becoming the sole income earner, to carrying certified death certificates at all times to prove Dan has died to argumentative strangers. 

Megan shares her story with clarity, grace, and advice (and more than a dash of dark humour along the way!).

So, what happens when grief changes you forever? 

We find out in FORTY.

CREDITS: 

Hosts: Lise Carlaw and Sarah Wills

Guest: Megan Daley

Web: childrensbooksdaily.com

Instagram: @childrensbooksdaily

Producer: Josh Sanders @the_kernal1

CONTACT: 

Email: [email protected]

Instagram: @liseandsarah

Facebook: Those Two Girls  

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Welcome to Lise & Sarah's 'INNER CIRCLE', where they riff and rib each other about the week that was, what's going on in their own lives, and everything in between.

CREDITS:

Hosts: Lise Carlaw and Sarah Wills

Producer: Josh Sanders @thekernal_1

CONTACT:

Email: [email protected]

Instagram: @liseandsarah

Facebook: Those Two Girls

See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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In country Australia, nobody is talking about alcohol abuse. But Shanna Whan is. There’s no one better qualified to do so than a girl from the country who nearly died in front of her community from alcohol abuse.

Shanna was a journalist and rural photographer by day and an alcoholic by night - her relationship with booze tangled in trauma and fuelled by a socially acceptable and glorified national pastime.

On the precipice of turning forty, Shanna would survive a series of blows that would change her life forever.

This is the story of one woman’s battle with the bottle; how she overcame the guilt and grief she felt when she and her husband were told they wouldn’t have children, what life’s like on the fringes of society as a childless and sober woman in a rural community, and what happens when your road to recovery leads to the birth of a national charity.

So, what happens when you stop drinking and start speaking your truth?

We find out in FORTY.

CREDITS: 

Hosts: Lise Carlaw and Sarah Wills

Guest: Shanna Whan

Instagram: @sober_in_the_country

Australian Story – Shanna’s episode

https://www.abc.net.au/austory/last-drinks/11705194

Producer: Josh Sanders @the_kernal1

CONTACT: 

Email: [email protected]

Instagram: @liseandsarah

Facebook: Those Two Girls  

See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Welcome to Lise & Sarah's 'INNER CIRCLE', where they riff and rib each other about the week that was, what's going on in their own lives, and everything in between.

CREDITS:

Hosts: Lise Carlaw and Sarah Wills

Producer: Josh Sanders @thekernal_1

CONTACT:

Email: [email protected]

Instagram: @liseandsarah

Facebook: Those Two Girls

See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.