Glossy magazine editors aren’t often the poster people for relatability, and yet Justine Cullen, former editor-in-chief of Elle Australia, will challenge that...and then some. Her life experiences, from co-parenting four children to three different fathers, to leaving her long-standing career and starting from scratch, is told with brutal honesty. Is your identity tied up in your career status? Is your marriage 'good enough' but not quite what you need? Are your dreams tangled up in the dreams of your 20-year-old self? This is the episode for you. Justine Cullen is all of us, at some point in our lives.

So, what happens when you shine a light on the parts of life you once thought were ugly?

We find out in FORTY.

CREDITS:

Hosts: Lise Carlaw and Sarah Wills

Guest: Justine Cullen

Instagram: @justine_cullen

Justine's Book: https://www.allenandunwin.com/browse/books/general-books/biography-autobiography/SEMI-GLOSS-Justine-Cullen-9781760875350

Producer: Jason Strozkiy www.strozkiymedia.com 

CONTACT:

Email: [email protected]

Instagram: @liseandsarah

Facebook: Those Two Girls

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Welcome to Lise & Sarah's 'INNER CIRCLE', where they riff and rib each other about the week that was, what's going on in their own lives, and everything in between.

CREDITS:

Hosts: Lise Carlaw and Sarah Wills

Producer: Jason Strozkiy www.strozkiymedia.com 

CONTACT:

Email: [email protected]

Instagram: @liseandsarah

Facebook: Those Two Girls

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From Chippendale dancer to CEO of the Tony Robbins Group, JJ Ferrari is the
ultimate ‘Transition Specialist’. She’s transitioned her career, her citizenship,
her marital status, and her gender. She was 53 when she finally decided to
transform into the person she always knew she was. This is a tale of finding the will to change and honouring your secret self.

So, what happens when you choose to live a life by design?

We find out in FORTY.

CREDITS:

Hosts: Lise Carlaw and Sarah Wills

Guest: JJ Ferrari

Instagram: @jjferrari48

Producer: Jason Strozkiy www.strozkiymedia.com 

CONTACT:

Email: [email protected]

Instagram: @liseandsarah

Facebook: Those Two Girls

See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Welcome to Lise & Sarah's 'INNER CIRCLE', where they riff and rib each other about the week that was, what's going on in their own lives, and everything in between.

CREDITS:

Hosts: Lise Carlaw and Sarah Wills

Producer: Jason Strozkiy www.strozkiymedia.com 

CONTACT:

Email: [email protected]

Instagram: @liseandsarah

Facebook: Those Two Girls

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This is a name you need to remember: Kemi Nekvapil. 

Believe us when we tell you the wisdom contained within our interview will probably change your life. The British-born actor, chef, yoga teacher, author, and life coach has a life story so varied and vast, it’s no wonder she's learned a thing or few about how the world turns for women in their forties. From realising the damage it does when we don’t ask for what we need, to deciding not to be at the mercy of her hormones; from navigating white spaces as a black woman, to the awakening that it’s not her role in life to be good and liked and make everyone happy. We were stunned into silence a couple of times, and hope you get as much out of this episode as we both did.  

So, what happens when you decide not to play the ‘nice’ card? 

We find out in FORTY.  

CREDITS:

Hosts: Lise Carlaw and Sarah Wills

Guest: Kemi Nekvapil

Instagram: @keminekvapil

Everything Kemi: linktr.ee/keminekvapil 

Producer: Jason Strozkiy www.strozkiymedia.com 

CONTACT:

Email: [email protected]

Instagram: @liseandsarah

Facebook: Those Two Girls

See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Welcome to Lise & Sarah's 'INNER CIRCLE', where they riff and rib each other about the week that was, what's going on in their own lives, and everything in between.

CREDITS:

Hosts: Lise Carlaw and Sarah Wills

Producer: Jason Strozkiy www.strozkiymedia.com 

CONTACT:

Email: [email protected]

Instagram: @liseandsarah

Facebook: Those Two Girls

See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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What’s your ‘money story’? Are you someone who makes rash decisions with dollars? Will future-you thank you for how you manage your moolah now? Does talking about spending and saving fill you with dread? Are you even considering not listening to this FORTY ep. because it goes deep with all of this?! (Trust us, it’s an absolute ripper.) 

Here's the thing; we’re grown-ups and it’s no longer cute to not be in control of your dollars and cents [see also: SENSE], and that’s where Mel Browne comes in. When Mel got divorced at 33, she was left with nothing/zilch/nada after making a retaliatory, highly emotional decision with her divorce proceedings. Oops. And here’s a surprise: Mel was an accountant!  

She had to start ALL. OVER. AGAIN.  

Fast forward 15 years, and the self-confessed ‘Western suburbs bogan’ is now a multi-millionaire who re-wrote her own money story. This is a must listen.  

So, what happens when you take back control? 

We find out in FORTY.  

CREDITS:

Hosts: Lise Carlaw and Sarah Wills

Guest: Mel Brown

Instagram: @moremoneyforshoes

Producer: Jason Strozkiy www.strozkiymedia.com 

CONTACT:

Email: [email protected]

Instagram: @liseandsarah

Facebook: Those Two Girls

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