Welcome to This Glorious Mess Little Kids. A twice-weekly look at parenting as it really is. Confusing, exhausting, inspiring, funny, and full of surprises. So many surprises. 

Expanding your family can be a huge adjustment. 

If you get the chance to do it, you'll probably be asking yourself - how will I prepare baby number one? Will I need more in the bank? And how will I ever manage to find time to myself again?

Our guest today, Sarah Ockwell-Smith is a mum to four, parenting expert, psychologist and author, and she has written a book all about preparing for baby number two, The Second Baby Book. So if you're lucky enough to plan your babies or are worried about your expanding family, Sarah is here to help! 

And as always, we answer your listener dilemmas... how do I get my kids to settle at the same time? 

LINKS 

Sarah's book, Second Baby Book: how to cope with pregnancy number two and create a happy home for your firstborn and new arrival, is available now! 

CREDITS

Host: Leigh Campbell & Tegan Natoli

Guest: Sarah Ockwell - Smith

Producer: Elissa Ratliff & Mikayla Floriano

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