Mamamia Out Loud

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Mia & Amelia are (still) obsessed with Carolyn Bessette Kennedy (CBK) so they’re back for Part 2 of their deep dive into the TV series Love Story.

From Naomi Watts’ depiction of real-life icon Jackie O to the complex roles of Darryl Hannah and the Kennedy matriarchs, they’re unpacking what it must have been like to marry into the complicated Kennedy family.

Plus, Mia and Amelia examine the toxic dynamics that defined the couple’s public life and break down that infamous Central Park fight scene. Was it a moment of passion, or was it "emotional dysregulation"? 

They also discuss the poignant newsletter from the couple’s close friend Carole Radziwill, who explains why she refuses to watch the show and the unsettling question of whether why the dead are never allowed to rest in peace in the age of AI. 

It’s a raw and slightly uncomfortable look at how we consume the tragedies of the past as modern entertainment.

Remember, this is your free sample of today's subs episode. The full debrief drops for subscribers at 5pm.

What To Listen To Next: 

• Listen to Part 1: Mia & Amelia On CBK: The Clothes, The Curse, The Love Story
•  Listen: Uninvited Princesses & The Dating Story We're Yearning For
• Listen: The Next Top Model Reckoning & Jessie's Very Honest Handover
• Listen: Oh Sh*t. We Let Creeps Decide Our Beauty Standards
• Listen: "I'm A Working Mum & I Just Want To Quit"
• Listen: Prince William Has Entered The Chat
• Listen: The New Dating Rule That Blew Up A Comments Section
• Connect your subscription to Apple Podcasts 

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What to read: 

• Carolyn Bessette-Kennedy became one of the most famous women in the world. She hated it.
• This new series tackles the complicated legacy of the '90s hottest couple.
• JFK cheated on his wife Jackie for years. She was 'paid to keep it quiet'.
• 'My first salary was $12k.' Working in magazines was like the real-life Devil Wears Prada.

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America and Israel have launched an attack on Iran, and while the world watches the fallout of "Epic Fury," we’re looking at what comes next.  Our Amelia Lester, also an editor at Foreign Policy, is here to explain why the US acted without Congress, why Australia is one of the few Western voices in support, and whether this is the kind of international meddling Donald Trump promised to avoid?

Plus, Carolyn Bessette and JFK Jnr’s Love Story has triggered a wave of nostalgia for those who lived through the 90s, and 'fauxstalgia' for those who like to imagine a world that didn't involve an endless scroll. Clare Stephens wants to know what life was like when we lived with two hands, and not with one constantly on our phones.

And, Princesses Beatrice and Eugenie have been snubbed, finding themselves uninvited from a major royal event. So are they being punished for the sins of their parents, or, Holly Wainwright wants to know, is this the beginning of William’s royal trim down?

Also, we’ve got the definitive list of songs NOT to listen to when you’re driving. 

And… Bad Bunny, Harry Styles and the ridiculous joy of watching men dance.

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What To Listen To Next: 

• Listen to our latest episode: The Next Top Model Reckoning & Jessie's Very Honest Handover
• Listen: Oh Sh*t. We Let Creeps Decide Our Beauty Standards
• Listen: "I'm A Working Mum & I Just Want To Quit"
• Listen: Mia & Amelia On CBK: The Clothes, The Curse, The Love Story
• Listen: Prince William Has Entered The Chat
• Listen: The New Dating Rule That Blew Up A Comments Section
• Listen: 'Prince' Andrew's Arrest Is Not What You Think It Is
• Listen: Angelina Jolie & The Existential Threat Of Desirable Older Women
• Listen: MAFS & The Specific Cruelty of the ‘Sexual Chemistry’ Question
• Connect your subscription to Apple Podcasts 

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What to read: 

• 'One moment during the Super Bowl halftime show brought me to tears.'
• Carolyn Bessette-Kennedy became one of the most famous women in the world. She hated it.
• This new series tackles the complicated legacy of the '90s hottest couple.
• 'Everyone is nostalgic for 2016. But I can't romanticise a place I barely escaped.'
• HOLLY WAINWRIGHT: 'Prince' Andrew's arrest is not what you think it is.
• Listen to The Quicky: The US & Israel Have Struck Iran Killing The Supreme Leader. What Happens Next? 

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It’s the season to blame Tyra. Netflix’s new America’s Next Top Model doco has us spiraling back to 2003. It shows us the size-zero era through a 2026 lens, when Tyra Banks was breaking barriers while also showcasing some of the show's seriously batshit behaviour —from models posing as murder victims to 'makeovers' that involved pulling teeth. Now we’re in the MAFS era Clare Stephens wants to know: is every generation’s reality TV show of choice just programmed to prompt outrage? 

Also, today is Jessie’s last day before she goes off on maternity leave. But not before a chaotic handover to her twin, Clare. As Clare prepares to take the seat, she’s re-learning the 'rules' of being an Out Loud host. 

In other business, does your personality need a mini-makeover of its own? We’re talking 'micro-reinvention' — not big deals like quitting your job; more small shifts like adopting a signature condiment or finally becoming a 'Pilates person'. Holly, for instance, is wearing brown. Big deal. Huge. 

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Recommendations

Clare recommends the "Brick"—a physical device that locks you out of your apps to fight phone addiction.

Jessie recommends L’Occitane Osmanthus Abricot shower gel or DedCool Taunt Hand and Body Wash for the ultimate vibe shift.

Holly recommends Eric Dane: Famous Last Words on Netflix—a raw interview with a man who has nothing left to lose.

What To Listen To Next: 

• Listen to our latest episode: Oh Sh*t. We Let Creeps Decide Our Beauty Standards
• Listen: "I'm A Working Mum & I Just Want To Quit"
• Listen: Mia & Amelia On CBK: The Clothes, The Curse, The Love Story
• Listen: Prince William Has Entered The Chat
• Listen: The New Dating Rule That Blew Up A Comments Section
• Listen: 'Prince' Andrew's Arrest Is Not What You Think It Is
• Listen: Angelina Jolie & The Existential Threat Of Desirable Older Women
• Listen: MAFS & The Specific Cruelty of the ‘Sexual Chemistry’ Question
• Connect your subscription to Apple Podcasts 

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What to read: 

• Carly Jacob's Substack: 17 micro-reinventions to try (full rebrand not required)
• 'I was raised on America's Next Top Model. The new Netflix documentary is deeply disturbing.'
• Shandi was part of the biggest cheating scandal on ANTM. The truth was far worse than what we saw.
• Amanda Ware won Australia's Next Top Model after TV's most awkward mix-up. This is her life now.
• JESSIE STEPHENS: On being pregnant with twins. As a twin. With twin brothers.

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CREDITS:

Hosts: Clare Stephens, Jessie Stephens & Holly Wainwright

Group Executive Producer: Ruth Devine

Executive Producer: Sasha Tannock

Audio Producer: Leah Porges

Video Producer: Josh Green

Junior Content Producer: Tessa Kotowicz

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Outlouders, enjoy this free bite of Mia Freedman. Catch the full conversation — Oh Sh*t. We Let Creeps Decide Our Beauty Standards — at 5 pm TODAY. Not a subscriber yet? Put matters right HERE.

When a newsletter has the internet in a chokehold, you better believe that Mia Freedman has to unpack it. 

And so it is with the recent Substack from Jameela Jamil. Writing from what Jamil calls the "funeral of the body positivity movement," she posits a theory that is as provocative as it is dark: that the obsession with extreme thinness, hairlessness, and agelessness isn't just about vanity — it’s a standard designed to mimic the aesthetics of children.

Jessie and Holly join Mia to dive deep into the sinister framework of the 'sexy baby' trope, questioning why grown women are taught to spend their lives trying to get back to a body they had at thirteen.

Is the 'Epstein-ness' of this current cultural moment exposing a wider fetishisation of youth among the world's most powerful men? Or is Jamil's critique of the homogenised look of our favourite female stars—from Sabrina Carpenter to Taylor Swift—unfairly judging their "sparkly underpants" choice?

"Your body is not meant to look the same at 28 as it did at 18." Is it time to reclaim our waistlines, our wrinkles, and our right to look like grown-ass women? Mia has thoughts — and we're pretty sure you do too.

Remember, this is your free sample of today's subs episode. The full debrief drops for subscribers at 5pm.

What To Listen To Next: 

• Listen to our latest episode: "I'm A Working Mum & I Just Want To Quit"
• Listen: Mia & Amelia On CBK: The Clothes, The Curse, The Love Story
• Listen: Prince William Has Entered The Chat
• Listen: The New Dating Rule That Blew Up A Comments Section
• Listen: 'Prince' Andrew's Arrest Is Not What You Think It Is
• Listen: Angelina Jolie & The Existential Threat Of Desirable Older Women
• Listen: MAFS & The Specific Cruelty of the ‘Sexual Chemistry’ Question
• Connect your subscription to Apple Podcasts 

Discover more Mamamia Podcasts here including the very latest episode of Parenting Out Loud, the parenting podcast for people who don't listen to... parenting podcasts.

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What to read: 

• Jameela Jamil's Substack: Ah shit! We let pedophiles decide our beauty standards.
• Britney Spears, Brooke Shields and the 'criminal' interviews child stars don't want us to forget.
• Chappell Roan can take a stand, we apparently just need her to suffer a bit first.
• 'You’re routinely underestimated.' The 9 untold benefits of being an ugly child.
• Sarah says she has 'ugly privilege'.
• Okay, it's time we talk about the thing we're all too scared to talk about.

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Today, if you’re an Australian with even a drop of British or Irish blood, Amelia has a warning that might cost you hundreds of dollars.

And, is it okay for celebrities to ask us for money? After the deaths of millennial TV icons James Van Der Beek and Eric Dane, their families have started GoFundMe campaigns — and not everyone’s happy about it. Holly, Jessie, and Amelia have very different takes on whether it’s okay to solicit for donations when you live on a multi-million dollar ranch. 

Also, the new Married At First Sight villain,Tyson has landed. Jessie thinks his quest for a 'submissive' woman and his 'manosphere' vibes reflect what women are dealing with out in the dating world. While Holly‘s pearls are clutched about the podcast he’s doubtless going to start when he leaves the show. So, ‘should’ this man be on primetime TV? 

Plus, a listener dilemma we can’t stop talking about. Vanessa is overwhelmed, over-worked, and considering quitting her job because her husband’s 'big career' has left her doing 100 percent of the heavy-lifting at home. Jessie says "life is long, just quit," while Holly is asking: if every woman is making the 'choice' to scale back, is it actually a choice at all?

Plus, we deep dive into PHAARC — the probably not real (but very relatable) 'medical' condition currently ruining your work life. 

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What To Listen To Next: 

• Listen to our latest episode: Mia & Amelia On CBK: The Clothes, The Curse, The Love Story
• Listen: Prince William Has Entered The Chat
• Listen: The New Dating Rule That Blew Up A Comments Section
• Listen: 'Prince' Andrew's Arrest Is Not What You Think It Is
• Listen: Angelina Jolie & The Existential Threat Of Desirable Older Women
• Listen: MAFS & The Specific Cruelty of the ‘Sexual Chemistry’ Question
• Listen: All The Gossip From The Wuthering Heights Premiere (And Why Mia Walked Out)
• Listen: Wuthering Heights & the ‘Bad Man’ Controversy
• Connect your subscription to Apple Podcasts 

Discover more Mamamia Podcasts here including the very latest episode of Parenting Out Loud, the parenting podcast for people who don't listen to... parenting podcasts.

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What to read: 

• Grey's Anatomy and Euphoria actor Eric Dane has died, aged 53.
• Legendary actor James Van Der Beek has died, aged 48.
• 'I'd never thought twice about donating to a GoFundMe. Until my friends wanted to start one for me.'
• Mamamia recaps MAFS: The 'Mean Girls' face-off with the experts.
• It's not laziness, it's PHAARC. The new condition hitting the workforce.

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Outlouders, enjoy this free bite of Mia Freedman and Amelia Lester. Catch the full conversation — Mia & Amelia On CBK: The Clothes, The Curse, The Love Story — at 5 pm TODAY. Not a subscriber yet? That can all change here.

There are two kinds of people: those obsessed with Carolyn Bessette Kennedy (CBK) and those who just don’t get it. Mia Freeman and Amelia Lester are firmly in the first camp.

From Calvin Klein salesgirl to the most scrutinised woman in New York, Carolyn became a 90s' style legend — without ever giving an interview. Her marriage to John F. Kennedy Jr. turned her into paparazzi prey, her minimal wardrobe into a fashion blueprint, and her silence into an industry of speculation.

On today's subs episode, Mia and Amelia dive into Love Story: John F. Kennedy Jr. and Carolyn Bessette, the long-awaited dramatisation that had CBK obsessives in meltdown over wigs, hemlines and handbags.

The show is a love story, but it’s also a slow-motion warning about paparazzi culture, pre-social media fame, and a woman who saw celebrity as a liability.

Remember, this is your free sample of today's subs episode. The full debrief drops for subscribers at 5pm.

What To Listen To Next: 

• Listen to our latest episode: Prince William Has Entered The Chat
• Listen: The New Dating Rule That Blew Up A Comments Section
• Listen: 'Prince' Andrew's Arrest Is Not What You Think It Is
• Listen: Angelina Jolie & The Existential Threat Of Desirable Older Women
• Listen: MAFS & The Specific Cruelty of the ‘Sexual Chemistry’ Question
• Listen: All The Gossip From The Wuthering Heights Premiere (And Why Mia Walked Out)
• Listen: Wuthering Heights & the ‘Bad Man’ Controversy
• Listen: "Uh-Oh, I'm A Finger Princess"
• Listen: Jessie and Clare Stephens' Weird Twin Shit Just Got Weirder
• Connect your subscription to Apple Podcasts 

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What to read: 

• This new series tackles the complicated legacy of the '90s hottest couple.
• Carolyn Bessette-Kennedy became one of the most famous women in the world. She hated it.
• An aircraft that never landed: Carolyn Bessette-Kennedy, JFK Jr and the Kennedy Curse.

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Prince William is carrying on, but he’s not calm about it. He and Princess Kate are at the BAFTAs today, but people are only yelling at them about his uncle Prince Andrew's arrest. Holly Wainwright’s question is: Might ‘complicit’ King Charles take the fall for his brother, and hand his sh*t skirt to William?

Plus, "burnout feminism" is the name given to a 2020s shift that’s seeing women leaning out, quitting their jobs and embracing the pleasure of giving up. So, Jessie Stephens wants to know: After a very brief period of celebration, is female ambition just a bit cringe now? 

And the viral clip of Channel 9 reporter Danika Mason a lil’ bit drunk on-air at the Winter Games is only a fragment of the story. Was a full apology necessary to save a career, or is being "proper Danika’d" just the most relatable thing to happen on TV this year?

Oh, and in other business, bar soap is apparently dying and Amelia Lester is not happy about it.

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What To Listen To Next: 

• Listen to our latest episode: The New Dating Rule That Blew Up A Comments Section
• Listen: 'Prince' Andrew's Arrest Is Not What You Think It Is
• Listen: Angelina Jolie & The Existential Threat Of Desirable Older Women
• Listen: MAFS & The Specific Cruelty of the ‘Sexual Chemistry’ Question
• Listen: All The Gossip From The Wuthering Heights Premiere (And Why Mia Walked Out)
• Listen: Wuthering Heights & the ‘Bad Man’ Controversy
• Listen: "Uh-Oh, I'm A Finger Princess"
• Listen: Jessie and Clare Stephens' Weird Twin Shit Just Got Weirder
• Connect your subscription to Apple Podcasts 

Discover more Mamamia Podcasts here including the very latest episode of Parenting Out Loud, the parenting podcast for people who don't listen to... parenting podcasts.

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What to read: 

• HOLLY WAINWRIGHT: 'Prince' Andrew's arrest is not what you think it is.
• Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor is the first British royal arrested in almost 400 years. Here's everything we know.
• 'I call the dads of my students if they're sick.' 23 women on their daily acts of micro-feminism.
• Bar soap is back, but not as you know it.

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It’s Friday, and it’s a news-free zone. Breathe out, friends, and let’s kick off with a splash of skincare nepotism — Gwyneth Paltrow’s daughter Apple is sharing how Mum asked all her “Goopy” friends to help fix her teenage acne and honestly, haven’t we all? 

Also, iconic magazine editor Anna Wintour just sat down with her successor, Vogue Content Director Chloe Malle, and served up a deeply awkward masterclass in 'Boomer vs. Millennial' work ethic clash. So, who wants to pay everyone 30 per cent more? 

Is it ever okay to mention your food intolerance on a first date? What about your ex? What about your mother? And who the hell does pay, in 2026? The New York Times has dropped a new set of 'Dating Rules'. Some are genius, some are unhinged, and yes, we have thoughts. 

And finally, we tackle a domestic mystery as old as time: Are you a box-flattener or are you... normal?

Plus, recommendations. Jessie Stephens has a very helpful robot for you. Clare Stephens wants to help you unlock creativity (it's a new year, fire horses) and Holly Wainwright wants to show you her new pants. 

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Recommendations

Clare recommends The Writer's Studio which offers courses for aspiring writers. 

Holly recommends the jersey barrel leg pants from Uniqlo 

In a turn of events, Jessie is recommending Chat GPT (we're shocked too) for anybody who needs some design help when moving house. 

What To Listen To Next: 

• EMERGENCY MEETING: 'Prince' Andrew's Arrest Is Not What You Think It Is
• Listen: Angelina Jolie & The Existential Threat Of Desirable Older Women
• Listen: MAFS & The Specific Cruelty of the ‘Sexual Chemistry’ Question
• Listen: All The Gossip From The Wuthering Heights Premiere (And Why Mia Walked Out)
• Listen: Wuthering Heights & the ‘Bad Man’ Controversy
• Listen: "Uh-Oh, I'm A Finger Princess"
• Listen: Jessie and Clare Stephens' Weird Twin Shit Just Got Weirder
• Listen: An Affair Confession Live On Air
• Listen: The Best (And Worst) Generations Of Parents. A Leaderboard!
• Connect your subscription to Apple Podcasts 

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Watch Australia's #1 podcast, Mamamia Out Loud:

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What to read: 

• Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor is the first British royal arrested in almost 400 years. Here's everything we know.
• HOLLY WAINWRIGHT: Only Andrew, just Sarah and a teenage 'nobody' who rewrote royal history.
• 'Margaret Qualley just shared her "dating rules," and I'm here to break every single one.'
• Anna Wintour is fashion's most powerful woman. She is famously secretive about her love life.
• Inside the extremely elite Le Bal des Débutantes, a Bridgerton ball for nepo babies.

THE END BITS: 

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CREDITS:

Hosts: Clare Stephens, Jessie Stephens & Holly Wainwright

Group Executive Producer: Ruth Devine

Executive Producer: Sasha Tannock

Audio Producer: Leah Porges

Video Producer: Josh Green

Junior Content Producer: Tessa Kotowicz

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Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor has been arrested in the UK on his 66th birthday on suspicion of misconduct in public office. The former prince is the first senior British royal in modern history to be detained by police.

How did it happen? Why did it happen? And what does King Charles have to say about it?

On this extraordinary day for the Monarchy, we cross to Out Loud Royal Correspondent, Holly Wainwright for an Emergency Meeting.

What To Listen To Next: 

• Listen to our latest episode: Angelina Jolie & The Existential Threat Of Desirable Older Women
• Listen: MAFS & The Specific Cruelty of the ‘Sexual Chemistry’ Question
• Listen: All The Gossip From The Wuthering Heights Premiere (And Why Mia Walked Out)
• Listen: Wuthering Heights & the ‘Bad Man’ Controversy
• Listen: "Uh-Oh, I'm A Finger Princess"
• Listen: Jessie and Clare Stephens' Weird Twin Shit Just Got Weirder
• Listen: An Affair Confession Live On Air
• Listen: The Best (And Worst) Generations Of Parents. A Leaderboard!
• Connect your subscription to Apple Podcasts 

Discover more Mamamia Podcasts here including the very latest episode of Parenting Out Loud, the parenting podcast for people who don't listen to... parenting podcasts.

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Watch Australia's #1 podcast, Mamamia Out Loud:

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What to read: 

• Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor is the first British royal arrested in almost 400 years. Here's everything we know.
• HOLLY WAINWRIGHT: Only Andrew, just Sarah and a teenage 'nobody' who rewrote royal history.
• 'Margaret Qualley just shared her "dating rules," and I'm here to break every single one.'
• Anna Wintour is fashion's most powerful woman. She is famously secretive about her love life.
• Inside the extremely elite Le Bal des Débutantes, a Bridgerton ball for nepo babies.

THE END BITS: 

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If Barack Obama says there are aliens, then there are aliens. While the former President is busy clarifying that he didn't actually see any ETs in the Oval Office, Jessie Stephens has a theory: Is men’s obsession with outer space just a symptom of not having enough mental load?

Plus, the political "pub test" is officially dead, and the "algorithm test" has moved in and made itself comfortable. We’re looking at why the Internet is both the world’s best fact-checker and its most dangerous bias-confirmer. And Holly Wainwright is asking, what IS the actual pub test in 2026? 

And because we clearly haven't done enough critical thinking, we’re wading into the chaos of Married At First Sight. Jessie, of course, is an expert in the field, and she’s bringing several philosophical questions from the new season, starting with: Can you ever come back from a sexual chemistry deficit? 

In other business, apparently, humans "fall off a cliff" at age 44, which is sending Amelia Lester into a spiral. Happily, there’s a pick-me-up coming: Hollywood A-listers are signalling that side-parts are back. What’s next? Skinny jeans and ballet flats? Oh.

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What To Listen To Next: 

• Listen to our latest episode: All The Gossip From The Wuthering Heights Premiere (And Why Mia Walked Out)
• Listen: Wuthering Heights & the ‘Bad Man’ Controversy
• Listen: "Uh-Oh, I'm A Finger Princess"
• Listen: Jessie and Clare Stephens' Weird Twin Shit Just Got Weirder
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