Mamamia Out Loud

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Holly loved Wuthering Heights. Amelia hated it. Mia was meh - probably the most batshit of all reactions about the most talked-about movie of the year. 

So today we get into it. Mia Freedman asks Amelia why she thinks Margot Robbie was so miscast as Cathy, why she wished Jacob Elordi came with subtitles and why she’d like two hours of her life back, please. And Mia wants Holly to explain why there was a barking woman on a leash, and whether the finger-sniffing scene was, actually, in Emily Bronte’s classic novel. 

It’s a no holds barred dissection of the choices made by Emerald Fennell and of course, why Mia walked out of the premiere. 

Remember, this is your free sample of today's subs episode. The full debrief drops for subscribers at 5pm.

What To Listen To Next: 

• Listen to our latest episode: Wuthering Heights & the ‘Bad Man’ Controversy
• Listen: "Uh-Oh, I'm A Finger Princess"
• Listen: Jessie and Clare Stephens' Weird Twin Shit Just Got Weirder
• Listen: An Affair Confession Live On Air
• Listen: The Best (And Worst) Generations Of Parents. A Leaderboard!
• Listen: The Most Bizarre Celebrity Profile We’ve Ever Read
• Listen: Do I Matter? & The Bathroom Taboo
• Listen to The Quicky: “Outrageous & Provocative” Holly Wainwright’s Surprising Review of Wuthering Heights
• Connect your subscription to Apple Podcasts 

Discover more Mamamia Podcasts here including the very latest episode of Parenting Out Loud, the parenting podcast for people who don't listen to... parenting podcasts.

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What to read: 

• 'I thought I loved the new Wuthering Heights. So why did I walk out feeling so uneasy?'
• A brutally honest review of Wuthering Heights, a movie that will force you to scream.
• The two big problems with the Wuthering Heights cast announcement.
• 'In defence of Saltburn, 2023's most divisive movie.'
• There's a much more controversial Saltburn scene than the bathtub one.

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Did Australian politics just take a little topple off a glass cliff, or is the ‘rolling’ of Liberal leader Sussan Ley much more complicated than that? We’ve got the TLDR.

And, Wuthering Heights is everywhere and so is criticism of just what kind of “greatest love story” it is. A very sexy one, or a downright irresponsible one? 

Also, looksmaxxing. What is it? Who’s doing it? And why does it have to involve 17 different tablets every morning and a whole lot of money? 

Oh, and a little round up of scurrilous gossip for you. What do Celeste Barber, Ada Nicodemou and the Beckham family all have in common? They’re all trying to navigate some big emotional moments via social media. And look, for the Beckhams, it’s not going well… 

Listen to Amelia Lester, Holly Wainwright and Jessie Stephens get into all that and other stuff too, on today’s Mamamia Out Loud.

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What To Listen To Next: 

• Listen to our latest episode: "Uh-Oh, I'm A Finger Princess"
• Listen: Jessie and Clare Stephens' Weird Twin Shit Just Got Weirder
• Listen: An Affair Confession Live On Air
• Listen: The Best (And Worst) Generations Of Parents. A Leaderboard!
• Listen: The Most Bizarre Celebrity Profile We’ve Ever Read
• Listen: Do I Matter? & The Bathroom Taboo
• Listen: The Female Emaciation Era — Holly & Jessie Weigh In
• Listen: An Urgent Theory About Kim Kardashian & Lewis Hamilton
• Listen to The Quicky: “Outrageous & Provocative” Holly Wainwright’s Surprising Review of Wuthering Heights
• Connect your subscription to Apple Podcasts 

Discover more Mamamia Podcasts here including the very latest episode of Parenting Out Loud, the parenting podcast for people who don't listen to... parenting podcasts.

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What to read: 

• A brutally honest review of Wuthering Heights, a movie that will force you to scream.
• Marty Supreme is a perfect film, except for one distracting detail.
• Emerald Fennell was talking to her male friends when she came up with Promising Young Woman.
• Australia's favourite comedy couple Celeste Barber and Api Robin have separated.

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Outlouders, it’s Friday the 13th and the vibes are… chaotic. From Wuthering Heights to Finger Princesses to The Year of the Fire Horse and our weekly reccos, today's show is A LOT.

We’re about to enter the Year of the Fire Horse and apparently it’s all action, freedom and breakthrough energy. Unless you’re a Pig (sorry, Holly Wainwright). Jessie Stephens and Clare Stephens are claiming this as their zodiac Super Bowl, but there’s a tiny historical footnote involving superstition, falling birth rates and the suggestion Fire Horses are “too wild.” Rude.

And, the robots have taken over your child’s class photo. And no, we're not 'just' talking fixing gappy smiles. Add in AI-cheating uni students, 200-written-in-a-year AI romance novels by one author and its controversial use in true crime documentaries and suddenly we’re asking: are we outsourcing our brains? Or just evolving?

Plus: the petty hills we will absolutely die on. Quiet carriages. TEABAG OUT. No, Coke Zero isn’t fine. Yes, you must wave. The list is long and, at times, unhinged.

And finally… are you a Finger Princess? The friend who asks questions she could very easily Google. We fear it’s us.

Welcome to Friday, friends. It's a vibe.

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Recommendations

Clare recommends the podcast Adrift.

Jessie recommends The Correspondent by Virginia Evans and True Crime Conversation's, The 15-Minute Trial That Found Courtney Herron's Killer Not Guilty.

Holly recommends Wuthering Heights, (the OG) by Emily Bronte.  

What To Listen To Next: 

• Listen to our latest episode: Jessie and Clare Stephens' Weird Twin Shit Just Got Weirder
• Listen: An Affair Confession Live On Air
• Listen: The Best (And Worst) Generations Of Parents. A Leaderboard!
• Listen: The Most Bizarre Celebrity Profile We’ve Ever Read
• Listen: Do I Matter? & The Bathroom Taboo
• Listen: The Female Emaciation Era — Holly & Jessie Weigh In
• Listen: An Urgent Theory About Kim Kardashian & Lewis Hamilton
• Connect your subscription to Apple Podcasts 

Discover more Mamamia Podcasts here including the very latest episode of Parenting Out Loud, the parenting podcast for people who don't listen to... parenting podcasts.

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What to read: 

• Day 15 of the robots telling me what to eat.
• 'Gen Z knows more about AI than their bosses. It's about to change how we all work.'
• 'I walk straight into them': 17 women on the petty hill they will die on.
• We asked women to share their acts of micro-pettiness. Prepare to take notes.
• 2025 was dominated by the Let Them Theory. 2026 will be Let Them Be Petty.

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CREDITS:

Hosts: Clare Stephens, Jessie Stephens & Holly Wainwright

Group Executive Producer: Ruth Devine

Executive Producer: Tina Matolov

Audio Producer: Leah Porges

Video Producer: Josh Green

Junior Content Producer: Tessa Kotowicz

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"Three months ago, I made my biggest mistake and cheated on her..." These were the words that a Norwegian biathlete shared in his live press interview, minutes after winning bronze at the Winter Olympics. So why did Sturla Holm Laegreid choose to tell the world he messed up his chance with "the love of his life" and will his grand gesture to get her back work? 

Also, the world can't look away from the devastating true-crime story of the apparent abduction of US TV star Savannah Guthrie's mother Nancy. Today, there's been an announcement that a man has been detained after the release of a nightmarish video, but why has this case captured the world's attention and does that spotlight help, or harm, a real-time investigation? 

Plus, Lindsay Vonn is a US ski-racer who should possibly never have started the race that just ended her career. So is her story a triumphant one about resilience, or a cautionary one about ego?

And look, Holly Wainwright, Jessie Stephens and Amelia Lester were not going to leave the studio without a dose of scurrilous gossip: The footballer dumped immediately after they lost the Superbowl; why Kendall Jenner needed hand-holding in the Bad Bunny show; Kim and Lewis and, the couple most likely to infuriate their friends are (maybe) back together. Yes, it's JLO and Ben, 2.5.

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What To Listen To Next: 

• Listen to our latest episode: The Best (And Worst) Generations Of Parents. A Leaderboard!
• Listen: The Most Bizarre Celebrity Profile We’ve Ever Read
• Listen: Do I Matter? & The Bathroom Taboo
• Listen: The Female Emaciation Era — Holly & Jessie Weigh In
• Listen: An Urgent Theory About Kim Kardashian & Lewis Hamilton
• Listen: Scurrilous Gossip - Karl Stefanovic, Melania Trump & Sydney Sweeney, Oh My
• Listen: Fertility Vampires & The Murkiness Of 'Affair Baiting'
• Connect your subscription to Apple Podcasts

Discover more Mamamia Podcasts here including the very latest episode of Parenting Out Loud, the parenting podcast for people who don't listen to... parenting podcasts.

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What to read: 

• On Saturday, Nancy Guthrie's doorbell camera disconnected. By morning, she'd vanished.
• 'All I can think about is the Winter Olympics penis scandal.'
• 'One moment during the Super Bowl halftime show brought me to tears.'
• A slap, a 24-year age gap, and the controversy surrounding Emmanuel and Brigitte Macron.

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It’s Super Bowl Day in the US and while we’re not clear on the result, we do know that Kim Kardashian decided it was date night and Bad Bunny is actually one extremely good bunny. So, why did he inspire other musicians to put on a rival halftime show? 

In other business, the 'Coldplay kiss cam' woman is telling her side of the story of the night that changed her life, and Jessie Stephens, Clare Stephens and Holly Wainwright ask: What do you do with the kind of infamy that no-one wants?

And, Recipe Tin Eats’ Nagi Maehashi is mourning the loss of her very good boy, the famous Dozer. Have we learned how to say goodbye to pets properly? And what do we do with that very particular grief? 

Plus, Melinda Gates and what you owe a truly terrible ex.  And Bianca Censori — Kanye West’s wife — has given a long and winding interview about why she’s ready to put clothes on. Why, though? 

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What To Listen To Next: 

• Listen to our latest episode: Do I Matter? & The Bathroom Taboo
• Listen: The Female Emaciation Era — Holly & Jessie Weigh In
• Listen: An Urgent Theory About Kim Kardashian & Lewis Hamilton
• Listen: Scurrilous Gossip - Karl Stefanovic, Melania Trump & Sydney Sweeney, Oh My
• Listen: Fertility Vampires & The Murkiness Of 'Affair Baiting'
• Listen: It's Time To Burp Your House & The 3, 5, 7 Underwear Rule
• Listen: The New 'Wronged Wife' Divorce Playbook
• Listen: A Royal Summer Update Of Very Big Feelings
• Connect your subscription to Apple Podcasts 

Discover more Mamamia Podcasts here including the very latest episode of Parenting Out Loud, the parenting podcast for people who don't listen to... parenting podcasts.

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What to read: 

• When Bill Gates married Melinda, there was a condition. He could go on a yearly holiday with his ex.
• The one thing about the Epstein files everyone is missing.
• A guide to the Epstein files for people who don't have all day.
• Millions of Australians loved Dozer. Now RecipeTin Eats' Nagi Maehashi has said goodbye.
• It would be different if she had a voice.
• The disturbing truth about why Bianca Censori left Kanye West.

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Mia Freedman is in full-on producer mode at the moment with the launch of her shiny new project Unleashed. Today, however, she’s back in the hosting chair on Mamamia Out Loud as she spills to Jessie Stephens and Em Vernem what this producer gig malarkey is all about. Outlouders, trust us, you’re going to eat this up.

And, do you matter? Are you essential or just... existing? Mia, Jessie, and Em unpack the 'mattering' movement and why it’s taking over from 'let them'.

Plus, hotel bathrooms. Something’s changed, and it’s making us feel most exposed. The hosts dig into this trend and why some things — even with your partner — are better left private.

Also, Valentine’s Day = loneliest day for singles? Em begs to differ. There’s actually a worse one, and she’s explaining why.

Aaaand did we mention that hair tinsel is back? Naturally, Mia is fully here for it. Welcome to the world of disco hair.

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Recommendations

Em recommends the new season of Bridgerton and The Spill's Watch Party, Viral Moments, Marriage Rules & The Life Of A Maid

Jessie recommends On The Edge by Kate Horan 

Mia recommends these sparkly hair clips from Amazon. 

What To Listen To Next: 

• Listen to our latest episode: The Female Emaciation Era — Holly & Jessie Weigh In
• Listen: An Urgent Theory About Kim Kardashian & Lewis Hamilton
• Listen: Scurrilous Gossip - Karl Stefanovic, Melania Trump & Sydney Sweeney, Oh My
• Listen: Fertility Vampires & The Murkiness Of 'Affair Baiting'
• Listen: It's Time To Burp Your House & The 3, 5, 7 Underwear Rule
• Listen: The New 'Wronged Wife' Divorce Playbook
• Listen: A Royal Summer Update Of Very Big Feelings
• Listen: The Productivity Hack Jessie Swears By & Rogue Habits We Can't (Won't) Quit
• Listen to Watch Party: BRIDGERTON S4: Viral Moments, Marriage Rules & The Life Of A Maid
• Connect your subscription to Apple Podcasts 

Discover more Mamamia Podcasts here including Unleashed, the brand new show for Gen X women who need a laugh. 

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What to read: 

• 'I'm happily married and think celebrating Valentine's Day is cringe. Here are my 7 reasons why.'
• MIA FREEDMAN: 'The pants that divided the Internet a little bit.'
• 6 facts that will change the way you watch the new season of Bridgerton.
• 'The new season of Bridgerton fulfils a dream I didn't realise I had.'

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CREDITS:

Hosts: Emily Vernem, Jessie Stephens & Mia Freedman

Group Executive Producer: Ruth Devine

Executive Producer: Sasha Tannock

Audio Producer: Leah Porges

Video Producer: Josh Green

Junior Content Producer: Tessa Kotowicz

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Welcome to a lil' taster of the very first episode of Unleashed, the podcast for Gen X women who just need a laugh right now.

In your ears this week: actor Mary Coustas, Hollywood producer Bruna Papandrea, bestselling author Sally Hepworth and comedian Cathrine Mahoney.

In this episode:

• How often do you shower? Bruna has everyone gasping and Sally realises she's doing it wrong.
• Heated Rivalry: the real reason straight women are frothing for gay men.
• The most comfy underwear and whose Skims snapped in front of Kim Kardashian?
• Charcuterie is cancelled: and Mary is not happy Jan.
• The best (and worst) products our hosts are trying and buying this week.

Trying & buying: 

• Life360
• Cerave Foaming Oil Cleanser 
• Makeup glasses
• Vibrating plate

End bits: 

• Follow us on Instagram: @unleashed.show
• Love the show? Hit the plus (+) sign to Follow us on Apple Podcasts or Spotify. It’s free and helps other Gen X legends find us!
• Read the origin story of Unleashed here

This show was produced and created by Mia Freedman
Created and developed by Monique Bowley
The Executive Producer is Talissa Bazaz
Audio mastering and design by Tina Matolov
Social Media Producer Gemma Donahoe

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Why did the news about Kim Kardashian’s new boyfriend make Em Vernem cry? The F1 fans of Out Loud have a lot of big feelings about Kim and Lewis Hamilton’s romantic weekend in London and Paris, and the reason is... baffling. 

Plus, a former Neighbours star is now a big deal in populist Right politics, globally. Yes, Holly Valance is busy trying to get Pauline Hanson elected, just as she’s trying to get Nigel Farage elected in the UK and threw a massive fundraiser for Trump in 2024. So, is Valance’s One Nation re-record of Kiss Kiss silly, or scary? 

And.. Is it always better to be right? Holly Wainwright, Jessie Stephens and Em wrestle with the dichotomy of caring about facts and caring about being an infuriating over-corrector.

Oh, and we found out the truth about Chappell Roan’s nipples. You. Are. Welcome. 

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What To Listen To Next: 

• Listen to our latest episode: Scurrilous Gossip - Karl Stefanovic, Melania Trump & Sydney Sweeney, Oh My
• Listen: Fertility Vampires & The Murkiness Of 'Affair Baiting'
• Listen: It's Time To Burp Your House & The 3, 5, 7 Underwear Rule
• Listen: Celebrities Look Emaciated And I Don’t Know What To Say
• Listen: The New 'Wronged Wife' Divorce Playbook
• Listen: A Royal Summer Update Of Very Big Feelings
• Listen: The Productivity Hack Jessie Swears By & Rogue Habits We Can't (Won't) Quit
• Listen: "Hold On, I Just Need To Vent"
• Listen: Jessie's Twins Update & What We Really Did Over The Holidays
• Connect your subscription to Apple Podcasts 

Discover more Mamamia Podcasts here including Unleashed, the brand new show for Gen X women who need a laugh. 

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What to read: 

• Chappell Roan can take a stand, we apparently just need her to suffer a bit first.
• 'Young women are overtaking the F1 fan base. I know exactly why.'
• Kim Kardashian just made the smartest move of her career.
• Holly Valance rose to fame on Neighbours. Her life now looks very different.

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If a man breaks up with a 30-something woman who wants a child, is he guilty of more than changing his mind? Inspired by a viral column from the weekend, we explain the phenomena of the  ‘fertility vampire’.

Also, you might have seen the disturbing photos of the man once known as Prince Andrew kneeling over a woman. They are just a few of the thousands and thousands of images released in this weekend’s drop from the Epstein Files. So what are they, what else is in there, and what might happen next?

Are Margot Robbie and Jacob Elordi “affair baiting” on the press tour for Wuthering Heights? And is that… okay? 

Plus, Kim Kardashian has finally told us exactly why Harry and Meghan wanted those pictures taken off their socials and Karl Stefanovic is cutting our grass.

Jessie Stephens, Emily Vernem and Holly Wainwright unpack all that and why an Outlouder has shattered Holly’s family dreams. 

Read Charlotte Ree's article here:
He told me not to freeze my eggs. Then said he didn’t know if he wanted a baby with me

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What To Listen To Next: 

• Listen: It's Time To Burp Your House & The 3, 5, 7 Underwear Rule
• Listen: Celebrities Look Emaciated And I Don’t Know What To Say
• Listen: The New 'Wronged Wife' Divorce Playbook
• Listen: A Royal Summer Update Of Very Big Feelings
• Listen: The Productivity Hack Jessie Swears By & Rogue Habits We Can't (Won't) Quit
• Listen: "Hold On, I Just Need To Vent"
• Listen: Jessie's Twins Update & What We Really Did Over The Holidays
• Listen to The Spill: Margot Robbie & Jacob Elordi’s Sexy PR Plan & Amanda Seyfried Just Ruined Her Oscar Campaign
• Connect your subscription to Apple Podcasts 

Discover more Mamamia Podcasts here including the very latest episode of Parenting Out Loud, the parenting podcast for people who don't listen to... parenting podcasts.

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What to read: 

• The Epstein files are being released. Here are the most significant details so far.
• The one question everyone's asking about Andrew.
• Prince Harry said he misses the UK but can't take his children there. Buckingham Palace responded.
• In defence of historically inaccurate period dramas.

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You probably should be burping your house: every morning, every evening and whenever you get the urge throughout the day, tbh. Jessie Stephens explains to Emily Vernem and Holly Wainwright why not doing that is… a lil bit gross. 

And while we’re hygiene-sharing, Em has a question for the group: How many pairs of underwear do you take if you are going away for a weekend? Holly thought she knew the answer to this question, but she’s definitely wrong. 

Also, how many risks are parents allowed to take? We’re talking about Alex Honnold and Sanni McCandless - the man who just climbed a skyscraper with no ropes, net or parachute, and the mother of his little kids who watched him do it. Is it okay to just… carry on regardless with your passions, however isolating or deadly they are, once you have kids? 

Plus: Be more “vegan + bacon”. Why that’s not an oxymoron, but a philosophy to live by in 2026. 

Oh, and recommendations. Which this week include:

Emily’s underwear edit - including Nala (the sexiest Aussie pants) and many more. 

Holly’s enthusiasm for Oscar-nommed Marty Supreme, in cinemas now, and a high-brow discussion about Timothée's bottom. 

And Jessie is watching The Pitt, Season Two, on HBO Max. 

Urgent addition! Mia’s new baby, a show for Gen X women who want to laugh - Unleashed. Coming next week. 

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What To Listen To Next: 

• Listen to Unleashed: https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/unleashedshow
• Listen to our latest episode: Celebrities Look Emaciated And I Don’t Know What To Say
• Listen: The New 'Wronged Wife' Divorce Playbook
• Listen: A Royal Summer Update Of Very Big Feelings
• Listen: The Productivity Hack Jessie Swears By & Rogue Habits We Can't (Won't) Quit
• Listen: "Hold On, I Just Need To Vent"
• Listen: Jessie's Twins Update & What We Really Did Over The Holidays
• Listen: Blake Lively, Taylor Swift, Revealing Texts & A Masterclass In Awkward Conversations
• Listen: Brooklyn Beckham, That ‘Inappropriate’ Dance & The Downfall Of A Family Brand
• Listen: Brooklyn Beckham Goes Nuclear: An Emergency Meeting
• Listen: The Superstar Podcaster Who’s Been ‘Red-Pilled’ & Was JLo Really That Rude?
• Connect your subscription to Apple Podcasts

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What to read: 

• Sanni Honnold knew what she signed up for.
• Time to refresh your underwear drawer? Here are 11 of the best.
• 'I was struggling to make my new year's resolutions stick. Then I learnt about "temptation bundling"

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CREDITS:

Hosts: Emily Vernem, Jessie Stephens & Holly Wainwright

Group Executive Producer: Ruth Devine

Executive Producer: Sasha Tannock

Audio Producer: Leah Porges

Video Producer: Josh Green

Junior Content Producer: Tessa Kotowicz

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