Mamamia Out Loud

Princess Diana's brother has a 'tell-all' memoir out tomorrow, and the King has already made a "furious" statement about it. But the big question remains: Did he really say THAT?
The movie about long-term relationships that you might have to watch alone.
Also, Patrick Clancy has sat down for a 60 Minutes interview with his new wife. Why would he do that?
Plus, over the weekend, internet sleuths stumbled on what they think is a very famous man's Instagram account and he appears to be trolling his equally-famous exes.

Also, it's been a horror few days of family violence across Australia. We urge everyone who is able to support organisations working on the frontlines of this issue, like: Rize Up
Support is available at 1800RESPECT

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• Listen to our latest episode: The Signs You’re More Attractive Than You Think & The Donkey Steps Hack
• Listen: The Story That Changed Our Mind About Commercial Surrogacy
• Listen: The Karl Stefanovic Podcast Gossip & An Unpopular Opinion About The Hyrox Pooper
• Listen: The Emmy’s Love Story We Can’t Stop Thinking About
• Listen: Sydney Sweeney Knows Exactly What She's Doing & The 'Paperclip' Theory
• Listen: Why We All Quit Therapy & When The Internet Says ‘Leave Him’
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What to read: 

• 'I'm a mum who escaped violence. I can't stop thinking about a recent message from a friend.'
• Why everyone's talking about Ed Sheeran.
• The night Princess Diana died, her brother got a phone call from Charles. His account is extraordinary.
• Lindsay Clancy, convinced internet sleuths and the age of the social media trial.

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Would strangers open up to you on a train? Do people quietly start copying the way you talk? Em Vernem has found the 19 signs that show you might be more attractive than you think.

Plus, Jessie unpacks the rise of the "thoughtfluencer" and how easy it is to appear to be an expert online. While it makes information a lot more accessible, we question if you can trust anything you’re reading.

The push-up bra is back! You can decide whether to pack away the wire free comfort bras or not. Plus, Holly has found a creativity hack in an unexpected place. The asses might have had the answer all along.

And our recommendations for the week!

Em recommends Elizabeth Arden Green Tea Strawberry Basil Eau de Toilette

Holly recommends Last Seen on Apple TV and Dalliance on Paramount+

Jessie recommends Devanti 12kg Ice Maker Machine 2L - Black

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What To Listen To Next: 

• Listen to our latest episode: The Story That Changed Our Mind About Commercial Surrogacy
• Listen: The Karl Stefanovic Podcast Gossip & An Unpopular Opinion About The Hyrox Pooper
• Listen: The Emmy’s Love Story We Can’t Stop Thinking About
• Listen: Sydney Sweeney Knows Exactly What She's Doing & The 'Paperclip' Theory
• Listen: Why We All Quit Therapy & When The Internet Says ‘Leave Him’
• Listen: When Keeshia’s Lip Filler Went Wrong
• Listen: You Can't Say That About Your Kids & The Infamous Woman We Just Don't Believe
• Connect your subscription to Apple Podcasts 

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What to read: 

• The double standard in sharenting.
• "Ever since I was 12, I've been told I'm beautiful. Here's what my life is really like."
• 'I date men less attractive than me. Here's what people get wrong.'
• A lifestyle editor's no-BS guide to bra shopping like a pro.

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CREDITS:

Hosts: Holly Wainwright, Jessie Stephens & Emily Vernem

Group Executive Producer: Emeline Gazilas

Executive Producer: Keeshia Pettit

Video Producer: Josh Green

Associate Producer: Tessa Kotowicz

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Taylor Swift is hanging out with her wedding guest Tom Cruise at a football game and we want to know who's got more to gain from those optics. 

You've heard about the Hyrox athlete who, um, soiled herself mid comp but went on to win. There are lots of memes. But we’re asking a different question: would you do the same for the prize money of $21k?

Today's a big day for Mia, as you'll hear as she struggles to get through our conversation about kids. And why did the advice to 'act like a drunk person falling downstairs' change Jessie's parenting? 

Plus Karl Stefanovic’s podcast is M.I.A and he and his business partner are in court. Mia has some thoughts about why running a media business is harder than it looks.

Listen to Jessie’s interview on No Filter "I Went to a Really Dark Place": Jessie Stephens on the Six Months Nobody Saw
Listen to our episode about Karl leaving the Today show https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/emergency-meeting-karl-tommy-the-sack/id928350893?i=1000774131014

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What To Listen To Next: 

• Listen to Jessie Stephens on No Filter: "I Went to a Really Dark Place": Jessie Stephens on the Six Months Nobody Saw
• Listen to our latest episode: The Emmy’s Love Story We Can’t Stop Thinking About
• Listen: Sydney Sweeney Knows Exactly What She's Doing & The 'Paperclip' Theory
• Listen: Why We All Quit Therapy & When The Internet Says ‘Leave Him’
• Listen: When Keeshia’s Lip Filler Went Wrong
• Listen: You Can't Say That About Your Kids & The Infamous Woman We Just Don't Believe
• Connect your subscription to Apple Podcasts 

Got questions or things you'd like Mia to talk about? Email us at [email protected]

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What to read: 

• Karl Stefanovic's podcast is less than a year old. The relationship behind it has already imploded.
• Karl Stefanovic has given his first interview since his sacking. His wife became the story.
• 'I went to a really dark place.' Jessie Stephens on the six months nobody saw.
• The poo isn't the real problem here.

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Outlouders, enjoy this free taster of Holly Wainwright, Emily Vernem & Jessie Stephens on our subscriber-only episode. You can listen to the full conversation here: The Emmy’s Love Story We Can’t Stop Thinking About

Harry and Meghan pulled their kids out of school after just two days, and Holly has a theory about what's really driving it and who should be footing the bill to fix it.

Plus Karl Stefanovic's podcast has gone dark for three weeks. We chat about the court battle with his business partner and the very rich name he's floated as a possible saviour.

Also, Em Vernem runs through the biggest Emmy wins, the show that swept almost everything and the surprise appearance from a celebrity's cat!

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What To Listen To Next: 

• Listen to our latest episode: Sydney Sweeney Knows Exactly What She's Doing & The 'Paperclip' Theory
• Listen: Why We All Quit Therapy & When The Internet Says ‘Leave Him’
• Listen: When Keeshia’s Lip Filler Went Wrong
• Listen: You Can't Say That About Your Kids & The Infamous Woman We Just Don't Believe
• Listen: The King's Very Pointed Harry Letter & Alix Vs Alex
• Listen: Raygun And The Confidence Question
• Connect your subscription to Apple Podcasts 

Got questions or things you'd like Mia to talk about? Email us at [email protected]

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What to read: 

• All the very best looks from the 2026 Emmy Awards red carpet.
• The 2026 Primetime Emmy Awards are here and there's one major TV show missing from the nominees.
• The 7 best and most underrated TV shows of 2026 (so far).
• Harry and Meghan just moved back to England. SNL UK gave them a brutal welcome home.

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We're being told AI could end humanity, which is a lot for a Monday. But don’t worry, Sydney Sweeney is here to tell us how much she loves sports!

There’s a skit going viral about Harry and Meghan that has people divided on whether it’s a little bit funny or a little bit mean.

An AI researcher quit his job last week and told us that the people building this stuff genuinely believe it could kill us all within the decade. Amelia explains what the whistleblowers are calling for and why "just regulate it" might not be the easy fix everyone assumes.

Plus Holly's making the case for 'hopepunk' - why choosing hope right now might be the most rebellious thing you can do. Borrowing from Caitlin Moran and Nick Cave, we explore how you can actually change anything in a world this broken, and why giving up isn't an option.

Also, Sydney Sweeney's new ad for a sports betting app has her straddling a basketball hoop naked, and it has united female athletes around the world. They’re furious.  We unpack why women in sport feel it’s pushed us backwards and whether the ad is doing exactly what it was designed to do.

Get access to Very Peri, Mamamia's exclusive perimenopause series, for just $59. 25 world-leading experts, over 20 on-demand sessions, available now. We’ve sorted through the noise so you don't have to. Go to veryperi.com.au today. You hot? Same.

What To Listen To Next: 

• Listen to our latest episode: Why We All Quit Therapy & When The Internet Says ‘Leave Him’
• Listen: When Keeshia’s Lip Filler Went Wrong
• Listen: You Can't Say That About Your Kids & The Infamous Woman We Just Don't Believe
• Listen: The King's Very Pointed Harry Letter & Alix Vs Alex
• Listen: Raygun And The Confidence Question
• Listen: Your House Needs A Dirty Zone & Everything That Got Jessie Stephens Through Mat Leave
• Connect your subscription to Apple Podcasts

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What to read: 

• We asked 3 pro athletes what people often underestimate about women in sport.
• This is what happens when a child is told they are the wrong 'size' for sport.
• Harry and Meghan just moved back to England. SNL UK gave them a brutal welcome home.

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Are Aussies anti bush? Not the former president, the bikini kind. A viral essay asked why nobody blinked when a writer wore hers to the beach, and Em wants to know whether Australia is culturally anti-bush while America is having a big bush renaissance (a bush-enaissance if you allow). 

Would you post about it if your partner killed the family pet? A well-known content creator told her 1.8 million followers that her husband had killed the injured bird they were nursing back to health, and the internet unanimously said the same thing: leave him. But is it actually that simple, or is there a difference between the line you'd draw with your partner and the line you'd draw with a friend?

Plus, one of the biggest names on the internet has just quietly ended a show she's been running for 12 years, and Em thinks she's stopped too soon.

And therapy is over-rated! Why none of us are having it at the moment and what we’re doing instead.

If this episode brings up anything for you, or if you or someone you know needs support, please reach out to the following services:

• 1800RESPECT: Call 1800 737 732 or visit 1800respect.org.au for free, confidential 24/7 National Sexual Assault, Domestic, and Family Violence Counselling.

• Emergency Services: If you are in immediate danger, please call 000.

And, because it's Friday, our best recommendations for your weekend:

• Holly recommends The Unleashed episode with Ginni on voluntary assisted dying
• Em recommends a leather journal from Milligram, plus their $15 ruled notebooks if you're just starting out
• Mia recommends The Ultimatum: Queer Love, both seasons, now streaming in full on Netflix

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• Listen to our latest episode: When Keeshia’s Lip Filler Went Wrong
• Listen: You Can't Say That About Your Kids & The Infamous Woman We Just Don't Believe
• Listen: The King's Very Pointed Harry Letter & Alix Vs Alex
• Listen: Raygun And The Confidence Question
• Listen: Your House Needs A Dirty Zone & Everything That Got Jessie Stephens Through Mat Leave
• Connect your subscription to Apple Podcasts

Discover more Mamamia Podcasts here including the very latest episode of Parenting Out Loud, the parenting podcast for people who don't listen to... parenting podcasts.

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What to read: 

• Constance Hall's husband killed her rescue bird. There's more to the story.
• 'Millennial hobby energy' is the reason we'll never be happy.
• 'These are the 5 winter hobbies I'm obsessed with for under $50.'
• 'I'm a psychologist. This is the one thing you should never do in therapy.'
• HOLLY WAINWRIGHT: ‘I desperately needed to find some calm… So I read one very particular book and I got a hobby.’

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CREDITS:

Hosts: Holly Wainwright, Mia Freedman & Emily Vernem

Group Executive Producer: Emeline Gazilas

Executive Producer: Keeshia Pettit

Video Producer: Josh Green

Associate Producer: Tessa Kotowicz

Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land on which we have recorded this podcast. 

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The algorithm has been serving you the word 'algorithm' all week and we explain why. Is your feed about to change forever?

Why aren't women allowed to break script and say they feel relief when their kids leave home? One very famous Gen X icon did and Mia and Holly have thoughts.

Why would a woman about to go to jail invite a controversial documentary maker into her home for a month? Jessie unpacks the Elizabeth Holmes news.

And can two people who hated each other for fifteen years really just... go back to normal? Apparently a quarter of all siblings are estranged at some point and Liam and Noel Gallagher might just have a message for Princes William and Harry.

Get access to Very Peri, Mamamia's exclusive perimenopause series, for just $59. 25 world-leading experts, over 20 on-demand sessions, available now. We’ve sorted through the noise so you don't have to. Go to veryperi.com.au today. You hot? Same.

What To Listen To Next: 

• Listen to our latest episode: The King's Very Pointed Harry Letter & Alix Vs Alex
• Listen to The Quicky's latest episode: Algorithms: Will You Opt In Or Out? 
• Listen: Raygun And The Confidence Question
• Listen: Your House Needs A Dirty Zone & Everything That Got Jessie Stephens Through Mat Leave
• Listen: Gwyneth’s Dinner Party Disaster & Tom Cruise’s New Love Interest
• Listen: The Lindsay Clancy Frenzy & Holly’s Surprising Harry Take
• Listen: What Mia Didn’t Know About Jessie’s Postpartum
• Listen: The Names In Nicole Kidman’s Freezer & It's Time To Talk About Choking
• Connect your subscription to Apple Podcasts 

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What to read: 

• 'I watched Louis Theroux's new documentary. The real problem isn't who you think.'
• The question nobody asked before the social media ban.
• Michelle Obama's daughters 'tested limits' as teens. She feared life in the White House messed them up.
• 'This new trailer is the most unsettling thing I've ever watched.'

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Outlouders, enjoy this free taster of Holly Wainwright, Emily Vernem & the latest addition to the group chat, Keeshia Pettit on our subscriber-only episode. You can listen to the full conversation here: The King's Very Pointed Harry Letter & Alix Vs Alex

King Charles has sent a very formal letter about Prince Harry's return to Britain — and it's basically him telling the whole world that nothing has changed. Harry's still not part of the royal family. 

Plus, Alix Earle's new Netflix show is finally addressing the very public feud with another famous Alex, Call Her Daddy host Alex Cooper. It turns out there's something more serious behind this 'celebrity' drama.

Get access to Very Peri, Mamamia's exclusive perimenopause series, for just $59. 25 world-leading experts, over 20 on-demand sessions, available now. We’ve sorted through the noise so you don't have to. Go to veryperi.com.au today. You hot? Same.

What To Listen To Next: 

• Listen to our latest episode: Raygun And The Confidence Question
• Listen: Your House Needs A Dirty Zone & Everything That Got Jessie Stephens Through Mat Leave
• Listen: Gwyneth’s Dinner Party Disaster & Tom Cruise’s New Love Interest
• Listen: The Lindsay Clancy Frenzy & Holly’s Surprising Harry Take
• Listen: What Mia Didn’t Know About Jessie’s Postpartum
• Listen: The Names In Nicole Kidman’s Freezer & It's Time To Talk About Choking
• Connect your subscription to Apple Podcasts 

Got questions or things you'd like Mia to talk about? Email us at [email protected]

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What to read: 

• These two women had a very public fallout. We're now learning what happened.
• King Charles just released a pointed letter about Harry and Meghan. It makes one thing very clear.
• 'I spent a morning with Prince Harry. It wasn't at all like I expected.'

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Among the tributes to a legend, one Gloria Steinem quote is landing hard for a generation of millennial women. So, Holly wants to discuss, are we still “living the unlived lives of our mothers?” or do we now almost envy the lives they got to lead?

Plus, Jessie wants to tell us about a $800 toothbrush with its own onboard camera and an AI opinion about your gums, and she is worryingly into it.

And, Amelia has watched Netflix's new Raygun documentary and wants to know if you can actually have TOO much self belief? 

Plus: The Australian sporting moment you can’t watch without crying. And, the much-discussed US murder trial of LIndsay Clancy has been declared a mistrial. What happens now?

Get access to Very Peri, Mamamia's exclusive perimenopause series, for just $59. 25 world-leading experts, over 20 on-demand sessions, available now. We’ve sorted through the noise so you don't have to. Go to veryperi.com.au today. You hot? Same.

What To Listen To Next: 

• Listen to our latest episode: Your House Needs A Dirty Zone & Everything That Got Jessie Stephens Through Mat Leave
• Listen: Gwyneth’s Dinner Party Disaster & Tom Cruise’s New Love Interest
• Listen: The Lindsay Clancy Frenzy & Holly’s Surprising Harry Take
• Listen: What Mia Didn’t Know About Jessie’s Postpartum
• Listen: The Names In Nicole Kidman’s Freezer & It's Time To Talk About Choking
• Listen: The Blindside Divorce & Everything Is Embarrassing
• Connect your subscription to Apple Podcasts 

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What to read: 

• After the Olympics, the internet hated Raygun. She just answered the one question everyone was asking.
• Before she went viral at the Olympics, breakdancer Raygun was 'locked in a room crying'.
• A mistrial has officially been declared in the Lindsay Clancy case.
• We're watching the 'world's saddest murder trial' unfold. It feels startlingly familiar.
• Jai Arrow had just welcomed his daughter when he noticed something strange with his arm.
• Feminist icon Gloria Steinem has died, aged 92.

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Jessie Stephens, co-host of Mamamia Out Loud and bestselling author, sits down with Kate Langbroek for a completely candid conversation about the last six months of her life. Ten weeks early, on the day she finished up for maternity leave, Jessie gave birth to twins Margot and Harry, while at home raising her toddler daughter, Luna.

Jessie opens up about something she's never spoken about publicly before, a moment in NICU when she found herself in what she describes as "a really dark place." She also talks about growing up an identical twin, falling for her now husband Luca while they worked together, and building a marriage and family and a career when it's all intertwined.

Jessie will be back on Mamamia Out Loud in September.

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What To Listen To Next:

• Listen: Sophie Delezio Wouldn’t Change A Thing
• Listen: Liane Moriarty Was Terrified To Write A Big Little Lies Sequel. She Did It Anyway.
• Listen: Harriet Dyer: "It Should Have Been A Dealbreaker. I Chose Him Anyway"
• Listen: Amy Shark: “There’s No Way I Should’ve Made It”
• Listen: Everyone's Talking About Rosie O'Donnell. This Conversation Explains Why
• Listen: Dave 'Hughesy' Hughes: "I Have Been a Narcissist Most of My Life"

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Guest: Jessie Stephens

Host: Kate Langbroek

Executive Producer: Bree Player

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