Mamamia Out Loud

Holly's hair is on fire after she fell into a rabbit hole regarding the new 'president' of the USA. And no, it's not Donald Trump. We put a spotlight on Elon Musk and try to answer the question the whole world is asking: WTF? 

Plus, Australia's most successful online women are in a huge public feud. Jessie explains the All or Nothing story about Anna Paul and Mikaela Testa that's gone absolutely viral.

And, are you a feedback friend or the cheerleader friend? What's the difference, and should we actually be telling our friends the 'truth'? 

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What To Listen To Next: 

• Listen to our latest episode: The Grammys In Superficial Detail
• Listen: Kate Ritchie Knows She’s “Not OK”, Thanks
• Listen: A Generation Of Try-Hards
• Listen: The Tyranny Of Looking Like You Haven't Tried
• Listen: We’re In Act 2 Of Lively v. Baldoni And We Hate It Here
• Listen: Scurrilous Gossip: The Aniston-Obama "Affair"
• Listen: The Doco Mia Could Not Watch
• Listen to MID: Amanda Keller & Anita McGregor Know How Lucky They Are
• Listen to The Quicky: What Trump's First Fortnight Tells Us About The Next Four Years
• Connect your subscription to Apple Podcasts 

The End Bits: 

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What to read: 

• The biggest influencer drama just got a whole lot messier.
• It would be different if she had a voice.
• The huge celebrity story you definitely missed at the Grammys.

GET IN TOUCH:

Feedback? We’re listening. Send us an email at [email protected]

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CREDITS:

Hosts: Holly Wainwright, Mia Freedman & Jessie Stephens 

Group Executive Producer: Ruth Devine

Executive Producer: Emeline Gazilas

Audio Producer: Leah Porges

Video Producer: Josh Green 

Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.

Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribe

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The inexcusable harassment of a famous Australian woman, or a justified public intervention? The tabloid shaming of Kate Ritchie and her words to the trolls. 

Plus, has your labia gone? Can we chat about it? A spicy weekend column wants menopausal women to stop banging on about their bodies. Sure, thanks. We've got some feedback.  

And, Princess Catherine’s epic, inspirational act of micro-pettiness. We're here for it. 

Support independent women's media

Get your tickets to the Mamamia Out Loud Live 2025 All or Nothing Tour Presented By Nivea Cellular 

What To Listen To Next: 

• Listen to our latest episode: A Generation Of Try-Hards
• Listen: The Tyranny Of Looking Like You Haven't Tried
• Listen: We’re In Act 2 Of Lively v. Baldoni And We Hate It Here
• Listen: Scurrilous Gossip: The Aniston-Obama "Affair"
• Connect your subscription to Apple Podcasts 

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The End Bits: 

Sign up to the Mamamia Out Loud Newsletter for all our recommendations and behind-the-scenes content in one place. 

What To Read: 

• Read: Everything you need to know about the Mamamia Out Loud ALL OR NOTHING TOUR coming May 2025
• Read: A video of Kate Ritchie was circulating last week. She just responded.
• Read: The hidden meaning in Taylor Swift's Grammys outfit.
• Read: Every single look from the 2025 Grammy Awards red carpet.

GET IN TOUCH:

Feedback? We’re listening. Send us an email at [email protected]

Share your story, feedback, or dilemma! Send us a voice message

Join our Facebook group Mamamia Outlouders to talk about the show.

Follow us on Instagram @mamamiaoutloud

CREDITS:

Hosts: Holly Wainwright, Mia Freedman & Jessie Stephens 

Group Executive Producer: Ruth Devine

Executive Producer: Emeline Gazilas

Audio Producer: Leah Porges

Video Producer: Josh Green 

Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.

Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribe

See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Outlouders, we've just ticked off January for 2025... and who else is already exhausted? Don't worry... us too! So today we are sharing with you an episode of MID that will help you avoid burning out. 

Burn-Out, says author Katherine May, is what happens when you repeatedly ignore your own needs. Sound familiar?

The first signs are often that you can't focus. Can't read, maybe. Can't sleep, or sleep too much? Can't eat, or can't stop eating? You're Tired All The Time. You have that cold that just won't leave.The cure, everyone says, is simple: Slow down, Darl. But it's not so easy when everyone needs something from you.

Author and advocate Katherine May -  creator of the Sunday Times and New York Times bestselling books Wintering and Enchantment - thinks that the way we're taught to deal with burn-out is unrealistic for most women, particularly midlife women with overflowing plates. Waking up to meditate is not so easy when you've got lunches to make, work to do, life to live. And let's face it, a world that prioritises productivity hacks isn't exactly championing meaningful rest.

So how do you replenish, in 2025, when absolutely everyone's lost their charger?

THE END BITS 

Share your feedback! Send us a voice message or email us at [email protected] 

Follow us on Instagram @MidbyMamamia or sign up to the MID newsletter, dropping weekly here. 

Want to go in the running to win a $50 voucher? Answer this short survey.

 Click here for a copy Katherine's brilliant books.

CREDITS:

Host: Holly Wainwright

Executive Producer: Talissa Bazaz

Audio Producer: Jacob Round

Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.

Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribe

See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Today on the pod, we're tackling everything from your wardrobe's existential crisis to if trying hard is ever enough (and yes, there's a connection... sort of).

Mia, Jessie and Holly unpack:

• The Gen Z fashion police strike again. Another beloved item has been sent to the cells. But we have a defence prepared and we're taking this to the Supreme (Fashion) Court 👩‍⚖️

• A+ For Effort? A viral essay has everyone asking if we should reward trying hard over actually succeeding. Spoiler: It's complicated, and we're all feeling very seen right now.

Plus, our recommendations that will enhance your life (massive claim but we're sticking by it).

🌟 Mia's streaming: A show about... bitches? Trust us, it's not what you think.

🌟 Holly's eating: The perfect meal to enjoy while wearing your weighted vest (as one does).

🌟 Jessie's watching: A tear-jerker that requires a tissue warning (and possibly a support group).

And we wrap with a Best & Worst so juicy that Mia had to make an announcement about it. Enjoy!

Support independent women's media

Get your tickets to the Mamamia Out Loud Live 2025 All or Nothing Tour Presented By Nivea Cellular 

What To Listen To Next: 

• Listen to our latest episode: The Tyranny Of Looking Like You Haven't Tried
• Listen: We’re In Act 2 Of Lively v. Baldoni And We Hate It Here
• Listen: Scurrilous Gossip: The Aniston-Obama "Affair"
• Listen: Divorce? You're Not Alone
• Listen: A Special No Filter Announcement From Mia
• Connect your subscription to Apple Podcasts 

The End Bits: 

Sign up to the Mamamia Out Loud Newsletter for all our recommendations and behind-the-scenes content in one place. 

Recommendations: 

Mia wants you to watch Nightbitch on Disney+ 

Holly wants you to check out  Cowboy Chicken Salad by Recipetin Eats

Jessie wants you to watch We Live In Time at the movies

Bonus Mia Recco: watch The Split: Barcelona on ABC iview

What To Read: 

• Read: Everything you need to know about the Mamamia Out Loud ALL OR NOTHING TOUR coming May 2025
• Read: Dear Millennials, it's time to bury another one of our beloved staples.

GET IN TOUCH:

Feedback? We’re listening. Send us an email at [email protected]

Share your story, feedback, or dilemma! Send us a voice message

Join our Facebook group Mamamia Outlouders to talk about the show.

Follow us on Instagram @mamamiaoutloud

CREDITS:

Hosts: Holly Wainwright, Mia Freedman & Jessie Stephens 

Group Executive Producer: Ruth Devine

Executive Producer: Emeline Gazilas

Audio Producer: Leah Porges

Video Producer: Josh Green 

Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.

Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribe

See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

We're right in the middle of Act 2 of the rolling Blake Lively and Justin Baldoni drama and our goldfish tendencies are showing. Jessie connects all the dots and explains a peculiar internet theory.

Plus, the neggy dating advice you should almost certainly ignore. 

And, we've cracked the code. As it turns out, there's a direct (but chaotic) line from "Jerry! Jerry! Jerry!" to "My wife isn't my type!" How MAFS became the spiritual successor to The Jerry Springer Show (and why we can't look away).  

The End Bits:  

• Listen to our latest episode: Scurrilous Gossip: The Aniston-Obama "Affair"
• Listen: Emergency Meeting: The Blake Lively Smear Campaign Unpacked
• Listen: Divorce? You're Not Alone
• Listen: "Sorry, Can't Make It": The Appeal Of A Post-Social Life
• Listen: The Doco Mia Could Not Watch
• Listen: Meghan & The LA Fires Blame Game
• Listen: Elon's Arm, Thirsty Women & Fourth Wing
• Listen: Trump Presidency 2.0 Has Landed
• Listen: Full Bush In A Bikini
• Listen: 'Let Them Theory': 2025's First Vibe Shift
• Connect your subscription to Apple Podcasts 

Sign up to the Mamamia Out Loud Newsletter for all our recommendations and behind-the-scenes content in one place. 

What to read: 

• Mamamia recaps MAFS: A nice guy, a neck tattoo and a bride who deserves better.
• Which Married At First Sight 2025 couples are still together?
• Mamamia recaps MAFS: The worst people you know just got married.
• Eliot keeps threatening to quit MAFS. Does he go through with it?
• Meet all the contestants joining Married At First Sight Australia 2025.
• There’s a new breakup trend. It’s worse than ghosting.
• Blake Lively isn't the first person to sue Justin Baldoni.

GET IN TOUCH:

Feedback? We’re listening. Send us an email at [email protected]

Share your story, feedback, or dilemma! Send us a voice message

Join our Facebook group Mamamia Outlouders to talk about the show.

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CREDITS:

Hosts: Holly Wainwright, Mia Freedman & Jessie Stephens 

Group Executive Producer: Ruth Devine

Executive Producer: Emeline Gazilas

Audio Producer: Leah Porges

Video Producer: Josh Green 

Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.

Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribe

See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

The holiday season can put a lot of strain on relationships. In fact, did you know that January is considered "divorce month"? Relationships break down for so many reasons during this time. 

Today we have a special episode for the Outlouder (or a person in your life) who might be going through some relationship things right now, because you're not alone.. even the celebrities are going through it! 

In this episode, we unpack a celebrity divorce dilemma about the labor imbalance that can occur for women in their households. Whether or not a couple or both parents can both have "big" careers, the concept of the lead parent and how that role often falls on women.

Plus, how does a relationship change when a baby enters the equation? It's a conversation that you will definitely want to hear. 

The End Bits:  

• Listen: The Breakup Text We Got This Week
• Listen: Listener Dilemma: Escort On A Bucks Night
• Read: January is 'divorce month'. Here’s why relationships fall apart at this time of the year.
• Read: You're not imagining things, there's a reason why so many celebrity couples are breaking up.
• Mamamia wants to hear from you! Complete our survey to go in the running to win one of four $50 gift vouchers. https://survey.alchemer.com/s3/8161754/Mamamia-Toy-Study-2025
• Connect your subscription to Apple Podcasts 

Sign up to the Mamamia Out Loud Newsletter for all our recommendations and behind-the-scenes content in one place. 

GET IN TOUCH:

Feedback? We’re listening. Send us an email at [email protected]

Share your story, feedback, or dilemma! Send us a voice message

Join our Facebook group Mamamia Outlouders to talk about the show.

Follow us on Instagram @mamamiaoutloud

CREDITS:

Hosts: Holly Wainwright, Mia Freedman & Jessie Stephens 

Producer: Emeline Gazilas

Audio Producer: Leah Porges

Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.

Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribe

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Outlouders, in 2025 many people are celebrating the new and making changes for themselves. We've spoken on the show at lengths about the pressures of beauty standards on women in society. To look younger is a conversation that isn't going anywhere. 

Which is why today, we are sharing with you a fascinating episode of MID that Holly did last year... because even supermodels have the same thoughts that we do. 

Alison Brahe Daddo was THE Australian model of the late 80s, on every magazine cover and on many a teenage girl’s wall. She had a huge career here and overseas. In recent years she became the most honest, interesting voice about midlife and menopause and all the messy challenges it brings us.

But in this episode, Holly and Ali get deep about surface stuff. Beauty, whatever it means to us - and let’s be honest, there’s a sliding scale of how much any of us can ever claim to have felt beautiful, at any age - is a beast in midlife. Because how we wear our age on our face and our bodies can feel so important, so crucial to how the outside world sees us, even as we know it’s really the silliest of all our concerns. It often doesn’t feel that way.

LINKS: 

• You can follow Ali on Instagram here.

• Find her books and other projects here.

THE END BITS: 

Share your feedback! Send us a voice message or email us at [email protected] 

Follow us on Instagram @MidbyMamamia or sign up to the MID newsletter, dropping weekly here. 

CREDITS:

Host: Holly Wainwright

Executive Producer: Naima Brown

Producer: Tahli Blackman

Audio Producer: Thom Lion & Leah Porges

Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.

Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribe

See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Are you more anti-social than you used to be? Than your parents were? Than you’d like to be? Welcome, friends to the Anti-Social Century, where we’d just like everyone else to... bugger off. 

Plus, a doco Mia’s obsessed with, a podcast for super fans and a trademark Jessie Stephens depressing TV show. Yes, it’s recommendations.  

And our Best & Worsts of the week: Jessie had a VERY bad Tuesday, Holly met a beautiful supervillain and Mia’s brain is betraying her. 

Support independent women's media

Get your tickets to the Mamamia Out Loud Live 2025 All or Nothing Tour Presented By Nivea Cellular 

What To Listen To Next: 

• Listen to our latest episode: The Doco Mia Could Not Watch
• Listen: Elon's Arm, Thirsty Women & Fourth Wing
• Listen: Trump Presidency 2.0 Has Landed
• Listen: Full Bush In A Bikini
• Listen: 'Let Them': The New Hack To Sort Out D*ckheads
• Connect your subscription to Apple Podcasts 

The End Bits: 

Sign up to the Mamamia Out Loud Newsletter for all our recommendations and behind-the-scenes content in one place. 

Enter Lazy Gewl Giveaways here! Use code WALK20 for 20% off a yearly subscription.

Recommendations: 

Mia wants you to watch SNL50 BEYOND SATURDAY NIGHT on Binge

Holly wants you to listen to Are You A Charlotte? podcast

Jessie wants you to watch Lockerbie: A Search for Truth on Binge & 7+

What To Read: 

• Read: Everything you need to know about the Mamamia Out Loud ALL OR NOTHING TOUR coming May 2025

GET IN TOUCH:

Feedback? We’re listening. Send us an email at [email protected]

Share your story, feedback, or dilemma! Send us a voice message

Join our Facebook group Mamamia Outlouders to talk about the show.

Follow us on Instagram @mamamiaoutloud

CREDITS:

Hosts: Holly Wainwright, Mia Freedman & Jessie Stephens 

Group Executive Producer: Ruth Devine

Executive Producer: Emeline Gazilas

Audio Production: Leah Porges

Video Producer: Josh Green 

Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.

Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribe

See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

While Donald Trump was sworn in for his second term as President of the United States yesterday, it’s Elon Musk who's stealing the show—and the headlines—with a viral clip. So, did he, didn’t he, and should we just pretend we didn’t see it?

Meanwhile, in Australia, some women camped outside a bookstore this week for their smut fix, while others are sweet-talking AI in search of digital dirty talk. Welcome to safe sex in 2025—it’s a vibe.

And, excellent news for you if you’ve just gone back to work and absolutely everything is pissing you right off… apparently it’s now good to cry at work. 

Support independent women's media

Get your tickets to the Mamamia Out Loud Live 2025 All or Nothing Tour Presented By Nivea Cellular 

What To Listen To Next: 

• Listen to our latest episode: Trump Presidency 2.0 Has Landed
• Listen: Full Bush In A Bikini
• Listen: 'Let Them': The New Hack To Sort Out D*ckheads
• Listen: The Wicked Divorce In Superficial Detail
• Listen: More Masculine Energy, Please
• Listen: The Stories We’ve Been Busting To Unpack PART ONE
• Listen: Meghan & The LA Fires Blame Game
• Connect your subscription to Apple Podcasts 

The End Bits: 

Sign up to the Mamamia Out Loud Newsletter for all our recommendations and behind-the-scenes content in one place. 

What To Read: 

• Read: Everything you need to know about the Mamamia Out Loud ALL OR NOTHING TOUR coming May 2025.
• Melania's hat, an 'arctic blast' and tech issues: The moments you missed from Trump's inauguration.
• Donald Trump signed more than 200 orders yesterday. Here's what you should know.
• The 28-year-old who has sex with her AI boyfriend.
• There's a new vaccine to cure UTIs. Only, there's a catch.

GET IN TOUCH:

Feedback? We’re listening. Send us an email at [email protected]

Share your story, feedback, or dilemma! Send us a voice message

Join our Facebook group Mamamia Outlouders to talk about the show.

Follow us on Instagram @mamamiaoutloud

CREDITS:

Hosts: Holly Wainwright, Mia Freedman & Jessie Stephens 

Group Executive Producer: Ruth Devine

Executive Producer: Emeline Gazilas

Audio Production: Leah Porges

Video Producer: Josh Green 

Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.

Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribe

See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Is TikTok getting the boot in the US? Could it happen here in Australia? And more importantly, why should you care? If you're feeling lost in the chaos... SAME. We break it all down for you and er, ourselves. 

Plus, Holly isn’t the only one declaring 2025 as her Year of Nup. Turns out, Michelle Obama is increasingly nupping everything she doesn't fancy. It’s giving major Let Them energy, and honestly, we’re inspired.

And… Meghan and Harry are back in the headlines with an epic Vanity Fair cover story and an 8,000-word profile. Yes, you read that right: 8,000 words. But don’t worry—we’ve done the hard work of reading it all so you don’t have to.

Support independent women's media

Get your tickets to the Mamamia Out Loud Live 2025 All or Nothing Tour Presented By Nivea Cellular 

What To Listen To Next: 

• Listen to our latest episode: 'Let Them': The New Hack To Sort Out D*ckheads
• Listen: Word Of The Year 2025
• Listen: The Wicked Divorce In Superficial Detail
• Listen: More Masculine Energy, Please
• Listen: The Stories We’ve Been Busting To Unpack PART ONE
• Listen: Meghan & The LA Fires Blame Game
• Connect your subscription to Apple Podcasts 

The End Bits: 

Sign up to the Mamamia Out Loud Newsletter for all our recommendations and behind-the-scenes content in one place. 

What To Read: 

• Read: Everything you need to know about the Mamamia Out Loud ALL OR NOTHING TOUR coming May 2025.
• Read: HOLLY WAINWRIGHT: 'Why I'm having a Year of "Nup".'
• Read: The depressing truth about America's TikTok ban.
• Read: In TikTok's final hours, creators spilled their secrets. Now, the app is coming back.
• Read: The full list of contestants on I'm A Celebrity Get Me Out Of Here 2025.

GET IN TOUCH:

Feedback? We’re listening. Send us an email at [email protected]

Share your story, feedback, or dilemma! Send us a voice message

Join our Facebook group Mamamia Outlouders to talk about the show.

Follow us on Instagram @mamamiaoutloud

CREDITS:

Hosts: Holly Wainwright, Mia Freedman & Jessie Stephens 

Group Executive Producer: Ruth Devine

Executive Producer: Emeline Gazilas

Audio Production: Leah Porges

Video Producer: Josh Green 

Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.

Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribe

See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.