Mamamia Out Loud

What’s going to happen in 2025? Mia has theories, Jessie has confident predictions and Holly has some gossipy speculation 👀. Welcome to the future. 

Plus, recommendations for things to watch and listen to plus, a very heavy thing to wear that comes complete with a funny story. 

And teenage boys, the end of a Big Era and a “You can’t say that!” moment — it’s our Bests & Worsts of the week. 

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What To Listen To Next: 

• Listen to our latest episode: Confessions Of The Social Media Lurkers
• Listen: The Breakup Text We Got This Week
• Listen:  Get The F*ck Out Of Our Village (Please)
• Listen: The Trends We Want To Return (Or Die For Good)
• Listen: Jay-Z And An Audacious Family PR Strategy
• Listen: It's Time We Talked About 'That Guy'
• Connect your subscription to Apple Podcasts 

The End Bits: 

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Recommendations: 

Holly wants you to check out Monthly Mixtape by Zan Rowe

Mia wants you to buy a weighted exercise vest on Amazon

Jessie wants you to watch Searching for Sugar Man on Apple TV+

What To Read: 

• Read: Everything you need to know about the Mamamia Out Loud ALL OR NOTHING TOUR coming May 2025.
• Read: If Paul Kelly's song How To Make Gravy makes you emotional, you're going to love the film.
• Read: Paul Kelly's How To Make Gravy is an iconic Aussie Christmas song. But is it a true story?

GET IN TOUCH:

Feedback? We’re listening. Send us an email at [email protected]

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CREDITS:

Hosts: Holly Wainwright, Mia Freedman & Jessie Stephens 

Group Executive Producer: Ruth Devine

Executive Producer: Emeline Gazilas

Audio Production: Lu Hill 

Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.

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You either know everything about popular influencer Matilda Djerf or nothing but after allegations were made about her behaviour — and yes, they do include a toilet incident or two — and Djerf responded with an apology, we just had to ask, 'What's it all about?'  

Plus, this is why we can't have nice things. Every year during the festive season we watch our favourite classic Christmas movies and every year, another one is deemed 'problematic'. This year is no exception. And why 20 years on, Keira Knightley is still being asked in every interview about Love Actually. 

Aaaand yet again, a famous woman is being torn apart online for her looks. It must be a Wednesday. It's Sydney Sweeney's turn to be in the headlines, but it's her response to the body-shaming trolls that has us asking if men actually know what women look like? 

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What To Listen To Next: 

• Listen to our latest episode: The Breakup Text We Got This Week
• Listen:  Get The F*ck Out Of Our Village (Please)
• Listen: The Trends We Want To Return (Or Die For Good)
• Listen: Jay-Z And An Audacious Family PR Strategy
• Listen: It's Time We Talked About 'That Guy'
• Connect your subscription to Apple Podcasts 

The End Bits: 

Sign up to the Mamamia Out Loud Newsletter for all our recommendations and behind-the-scenes content in one place. 

What To Read: 

• Read: Everything you need to know about the Mamamia Out Loud ALL OR NOTHING TOUR coming May 2025.
• Read: Do men know what women look like?
• Read: Psychological terror' and fat-shaming: influencer Matilda Djerf just addressed her staff's claims.
• Read: The scene Keira Knightley calls 'creepy', and 19 other things you didn't know about Love Actually.

GET IN TOUCH:

Feedback? We’re listening. Send us an email at [email protected]

Share your story, feedback, or dilemma! Send us a voice message

Join our Facebook group Mamamia Outlouders to talk about the show.

Follow us on Instagram @mamamiaoutloud

CREDITS:

Hosts: Holly Wainwright, Mia Freedman & Jessie Stephens 

Group Executive Producer: Ruth Devine

Executive Producer: Emeline Gazilas

Audio Production: Lu Hill 

Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.

Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribe

See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

If you’re buying a gift for your partner’s sister, running through a relentless three-day menu in your head and stuffing stockings while crying - you’re not just carrying the Christmas mental load, you’re kin-keeping. We explain.

Plus, a young woman who slept with 100 men in one day is crying on the Internet and the general vibe is “I told you so.” But now Lilly Phillips is not following the script for what’s meant to happen next — she's going for 1000 men in a day in 2025. We unpack 

The woman who wrote one of the best-selling books of all time about a search for romantic love has sworn off it entirely for her second act. Elizabeth Gilbert on why the LOVE has been dumped from Eat, Pray.   

Support independent women's media

Get your tickets to the Mamamia Out Loud Live 2025 All or Nothing Tour Presented By Nivea Cellular 

What To Listen To Next: 

• Listen to our latest episode: Get The F*ck Out Of Our Village (Please)
• Listen: The Trends We Want To Return (Or Die For Good)
• Listen: Jay-Z And An Audacious Family PR Strategy
• Listen: It's Time We Talked About 'That Guy'
• Connect your subscription to Apple Podcasts 

The End Bits: 

Sign up to the Mamamia Out Loud Newsletter for all our recommendations and behind-the-scenes content in one place. 

What To Read: 

• Read: Everything you need to know about the Mamamia Out Loud ALL OR NOTHING TOUR coming May 2025.
• Read: The sad story of the woman who went viral for sleeping with 100 men in one day.
• Read: Everything we know about Luigi Mangione, the suspect in the CEO murder case.
• Read: 'After my divorce, all I wanted for Christmas was my kids.'

GET IN TOUCH:

Feedback? We’re listening. Send us an email at [email protected]

Share your story, feedback, or dilemma! Send us a voice message

Join our Facebook group Mamamia Outlouders to talk about the show.

Follow us on Instagram @mamamiaoutloud

CREDITS:

Hosts: Holly Wainwright, Mia Freedman & Jessie Stephens 

Group Executive Producer: Ruth Devine

Executive Producer: Emeline Gazilas

Audio Production: Lu Hill 

Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.

Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribe

See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Outlouders, it's the season of socialising, parties and most likely, more fancy drinks  than you can shake a cocktail stick at. Which is why today we wanted to share this episode of MID with you (hosted by our very own Holly Wainwright). 

Holidays, celebrations, milestones. Wine o’clock, and the witching hour and the glass (or two) that marks the end of the work day. Alcohol is woven into our social lives in an almost invisible way. So what happens when you realise that the habit you thought of as your little helper is actually making everything worse?

In this episode, we're talking to Shanna Whan from Sober In The Country about why Generation X women drink so damn much. Shanna says that 90% of the people who seek support from her peer-to-peer organisation are women aged between 40 and 60. That's us, friends.

So why do Gen X women drink so damn much? How do you know if you’ve got a problem? And if it isn't you you're worried about, how do you talk to people in your life about their drinking?

If this episode raised anything for you, here are some incredible resources: 
Sober In The Country
Hello Sunday Morning
Alcoholics Anonymous
Life Line
Drink Wise

Want to hear Shanna's interview with Mia Freedman on No Filter? Click here
Read more about Shanna's story here

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Share your feedback! Send us a voice message or email us at [email protected] 

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CREDITS:

Host: Holly Wainwright

Executive Producer: Talissa Bazaz

Assistant Production: Sandy McIntyre

Audio Producer: Jacob Round

Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.

Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribe

See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

It takes a village to raise a child, or so the saying goes. So why are we always telling the village to F off?  We unravel what's behind the idea of community being cancelled.

Plus, our weekend recommendations include an addictive spy show, a T-shirt Mia’s about to send viral and… a dog pee cleaner?

Also, mysterious playground encounters, a sudden loss and a festive backflip — it’s Best & Worst of the week. 

Support independent women's media

Get your tickets to the Mamamia Out Loud Live 2025 All or Nothing Tour Presented By Nivea Cellular 

What To Listen To Next: 

• Listen to our latest episode: The Trends We Want To Return (Or Die For Good)
• Listen: Jay-Z And An Audacious Family PR Strategy
• Listen: It's Time We Talked About 'That Guy'
• Listen: Sibling Wealth Gaps & Ruined Christmases
• Listen: Our 5-Year Plans, Pay Gaps & Relationship Eras
• Listen: The 'Too Sexy' Pop Star & The Very Bad Son
• Listen: The 'Don't Be A Muppet' Good Guest Guide
• Connect your subscription to Apple Podcasts 

The End Bits: 

Sign up to the Mamamia Out Loud Newsletter for all our recommendations and behind-the-scenes content in one place. 

Recommendations: 

Mia wants you to buy Makusart tees 

Jessie wants you to buy DOG Wee Cleaner By Dr Lisa

Holly wants you to watch Black Doves on Netflix 

What To Read: 

• Read: Everything you need to know about the Mamamia Out Loud ALL OR NOTHING TOUR coming May 2025.
• Read: HOLLY WAINWRIGHT: 'Things I would buy my best friend for Christmas.'
• Read: There's a reason celebrity faces look different.
• Read: A mum's list of baby rules went viral, then came the messages.

GET IN TOUCH:

Feedback? We’re listening. Send us an email at [email protected]

Share your story, feedback, or dilemma! Send us a voice message

Join our Facebook group Mamamia Outlouders to talk about the show.

Follow us on Instagram @mamamiaoutloud

CREDITS:

Hosts: Holly Wainwright, Mia Freedman & Jessie Stephens 

Group Executive Producer: Ruth Devine

Executive Producer: Emeline Gazilas

Audio Production: Leah Porges

Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.

Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribe

See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Jay-Z's making headlines globally. We explain the disturbing allegations that ended up all over the red carpet of a massive new Hollywood movie, and the statement he released to the world. 

Can you copyright your… vibe? One influencer certainly thinks so. We unpack. 

And, the very popular children’s book that has just been unmasked as the primary reason for Generation Anxious. It's time to throw back The Rainbow Fish, friends.

Support independent women's media

Get your tickets to the Mamamia Out Loud Live 2025 All or Nothing Tour Presented By Nivea Cellular 

What To Listen To Next: 

• Listen to our latest episode: It's Time We Talked About 'That Guy'
• Listen: Sibling Wealth Gaps & Ruined Christmases
• Listen: Our 5-Year Plans, Pay Gaps & Relationship Eras
• Listen: The 'Too Sexy' Pop Star & The Very Bad Son
• Listen: The 'Don't Be A Muppet' Good Guest Guide
• Connect your subscription to Apple Podcasts 

The End Bits: 

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What To Read: 

• Read: Everything you need to know about the Mamamia Out Loud ALL OR NOTHING TOUR coming May 2025.
• Read: HOLLY WAINWRIGHT: 'Things I would buy my best friend for Christmas.'
• Read: Did this book shape your childhood? Apparently it's why we all need therapy.
• Read: Jay-Z has been accused of raping a 13yo girl alongside Sean 'Diddy' Combs.
• Read: Beyoncé met Jay-Z when she was 18-years old. This is their tumultuous love story.
• Read: Jay-Z accused of rape in refiling of lawsuit, and all the other allegations against Sean 'Diddy' Combs.
• Read: Taylor Swift's Eras Tour is finally over. Here's everything that happened in the last two years.

GET IN TOUCH:

Feedback? We’re listening. Send us an email at [email protected]

Share your story, feedback, or dilemma! Send us a voice message

Join our Facebook group Mamamia Outlouders to talk about the show.

Follow us on Instagram @mamamiaoutloud

CREDITS:

Hosts: Holly Wainwright, Mia Freedman & Jessie Stephens 

Group Executive Producer: Ruth Devine

Executive Producer: Emeline Gazilas

Audio Production: Leah Porges

Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.

Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribe

See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

A man was shot dead on a NYC street and within 48 hours his killer has become a pin-up worthy of a lookalike competition. Amelia Lester explains the story behind the headlines that are everywhere. 

Plus, planning to freeze your teenage daughter’s eggs? Incredible generosity or helicopter parenting soaring every higher? We unpack. 

And, everyone wants to know if Jennifer Garner and Ben Affleck are reuniting. But what if "Mankeeping" is the reason you keep seeing them photographed together? We unpack what that is exactly... and if it might be something you;re doing too. 

Support independent women's media

Get your tickets to the Mamamia Out Loud Live 2025 All or Nothing Tour Presented By Nivea Cellular 

What To Listen To Next: 

• Listen to our latest episode: Sibling Wealth Gaps & Ruined Christmases
• Listen: Our 5-Year Plans, Pay Gaps & Relationship Eras
• Listen: The 'Too Sexy' Pop Star & The Very Bad Son
• Listen: The 'Don't Be A Muppet' Good Guest Guide
• Listen: Harry & Meghan: Anatomy Of A Divorce Rumour
• Listen:  Family Gatherings, Opposite Opinions & Drama
• Connect your subscription to Apple Podcasts 

The End Bits: 

BreastScreen Australia Program

Sign up to the Mamamia Out Loud Newsletter for all our recommendations and behind-the-scenes content in one place. 

What To Read: 

• Read: Everything you need to know about the Mamamia Out Loud ALL OR NOTHING TOUR coming May 2025.
• Read: Lookalikes, a message on a bullet and Monopoly money: The bizarre murder gripping America.
• Read: Welcome to the world of mankeeping.
• Read: HOLLY WAINWRIGHT: 'Things I would buy my best friend for Christmas.'

GET IN TOUCH:

Feedback? We’re listening. Send us an email at [email protected]

Share your story, feedback, or dilemma! Send us a voice message

Join our Facebook group Mamamia Outlouders to talk about the show.

Follow us on Instagram @mamamiaoutloud

CREDITS:

Hosts: Holly Wainwright, Mia Freedman & Amelia Lester 

Group Executive Producer: Ruth Devine

Executive Producer: Emeline Gazilas

Audio Production: Leah Porges

Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.

Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribe

See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

It's no secret that colour analysis changed Mia Freedman's life (she's been pretty vocal about it) so before party season really kicks off, listen to this stellar episode of Nothing To Wear. 

From the importance of knowing your season (summer, autumn, winter or spring), to understanding your undertone, to why black might not be your best neutral.  Leigh Campbell enlists the help of colour expert Kim Crowley, to learn how you can eliminate the noise — both in your wardrobe and when you're clothes shopping — by discovering your personal colour palette.

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CREDITS:

Host: Leigh Campbell

Guest: Mia Freedman

Guest: Kim Crowley

Producer: Emeline Gazilas

Audio Producer: Lu Hill

Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.

Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribe

See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Do you earn more than your sibling or vice versa? There's so much baggage to unpack around money and families but like the heroes we are, no task is too great nor too small. Be warned: This episode's sibling wealth gap discussion pulls no punches. 

Plus, this week's recommendations including; a plea not to buy anything, followed swiftly by checks notes some things to buy (lol), and checks notes again... potatoes. 

And, letting down a friend, a very-much needed catch up with another pal, and how Jessie’s cheating on us with her sister -- it’s Best & Worst of the week. 

Support independent women's media

Get your tickets to the Mamamia Out Loud Live 2025 All or Nothing Tour Presented By Nivea Cellular 

What To Listen To Next: 

• Listen to our latest episode: Our 5-Year Plans, Pay Gaps & Relationship Eras
• Listen: The 'Too Sexy' Pop Star & The Very Bad Son
• Listen: The 'Don't Be A Muppet' Good Guest Guide
• Listen: Harry & Meghan: Anatomy Of A Divorce Rumour
• Listen: Sexy Movie Night With Mummy
• Listen: Christmas Grief, Cozzie Livs & Finding Joy
• Listen:  Family Gatherings, Opposite Opinions & Drama
• Connect your subscription to Apple Podcasts 

Recommendations: 

Holly wants you to check out Poppy Cooks 24 days of potatoes 

Jessie wants you to watch Buy Now! on Netflix 

Jessie wants you to buy REN Micro Polish Cleanser 

Em wants you to check out the app Cartered  

The End Bits: 

Sign up to the Mamamia Out Loud Newsletter for all our recommendations and behind-the-scenes content in one place. 

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What To Read: 

• Read: Everything you need to know about the Mamamia Out Loud ALL OR NOTHING TOUR coming May 2025.
• Read: The 'sibling wealth gap' is the centre of all your family drama.
• Read: A complete glossary of all the confusing words the kids won't stop saying.

GET IN TOUCH:

Feedback? We’re listening. Send us an email at [email protected]

Share your story, feedback, or dilemma! Send us a voice message

Join our Facebook group Mamamia Outlouders to talk about the show.

Follow us on Instagram @mamamiaoutloud

CREDITS:

Hosts: Holly Wainwright, Jessie Stephens & Em Vernem

Group Executive Producer: Ruth Devine

Executive Producer: Emeline Gazilas

Audio Production: Leah Porges

Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.

Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribe

See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

What would you risk to help a family member? In the case of one of the most powerful people on the planet, the answer might be reputation, credibility and legacy. On the table today is US President Joe Biden's decision to pardon his son — the understandable act of a devoted dad or a morally dodgy decision?

Also, why is 'sorted smugness' a thing now? Have a word please because a life that's completely in order is not something with which all of us are on board. 

And, Sabrina Carpenter’s live show includes X-rated lyrics and simulated sex positions. But with a very young fanbase to consider, is her content just too much for little eyes and ears? We do a vibe check.

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What To Listen To Next: 

• Listen to our latest episode: The 'Don't Be A Muppet' Good Guest Guide
• Listen: Harry & Meghan: Anatomy Of A Divorce Rumour
• Listen: Sexy Movie Night With Mummy
• Listen: Christmas Grief, Cozzie Livs & Finding Joy
• Listen: Holding Space For My 'Wicked' Vulva
• Listen:  Family Gatherings, Opposite Opinions & Drama
• Listen to Cancelled: Sabrina Carpenter: Love Triangles & Being Too Sexy
• Connect your subscription to Apple Podcasts 

The End Bits: 

Sign up to the Mamamia Out Loud Newsletter for all our recommendations and behind-the-scenes content in one place. 

$33 off - Mamamia’s biggest Black Friday discount ever.
Get an all access pass to Mamamia for just $36. Enjoy $33 off a yearly subscription by heading here.

What To Read: 

• Read: Everything you need to know about the Mamamia Out Loud ALL OR NOTHING TOUR coming May 2025.
• Read: HOLLY WAINWRIGHT: 'Christmas wishlists are out of control.'
• Read: Did Barry Keoghan just prove Sabrina Carpenter was right about him all along?
• Read: Addiction, unthinkable loss and dating his late brother's widow: Hunter Biden's complicated life.
• Read: 'The "Wednesday Waffle" is the one hack that saved my friendship group.'

GET IN TOUCH:

Feedback? We’re listening. Send us an email at [email protected]

Share your story, feedback, or dilemma! Send us a voice message

Join our Facebook group Mamamia Outlouders to talk about the show.

Follow us on Instagram @mamamiaoutloud

CREDITS:

Hosts: Holly Wainwright, Mia Freedman & Jessie Stephens 

Group Executive Producer: Ruth Devine

Executive Producer: Emeline Gazilas

Audio Production: Leah Porges

Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.

Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribe

See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.