Matt Chan—CrossFit Games legend, firefighter, and all-around badass—joins the Home Team for a conversation that spans training, marriage, and what it means to keep showing up for decades.

Timestamps:

• 0:00 Matt Chan is on the show (and Jason can’t help but notice he’s shirtless)

• 3:50 Is CrossFit really a clean sport?

• 5:15 Matt’s full knee replacement

• 9:38 Pushing through pain for over a decade

• 11:45 How being injured messes with your mindset

• 15:30 Going to three different doctors before getting answers

• 18:00 Why you shouldn’t rush into peptides—and the #1 rule: stop doing stuff that hurts

• 23:20 Altering expectations in the gym as you age

• 28:24 Marriage is better 20 years in: caring for each other first

• 32:30 Realizing marriage is a team sport (rules of engagement)

• 35:42 Why life is better shared than solo

• 37:39 Becoming better together: the daily learning experience

• 39:13 Matt’s current training and his Fireground Ready e-book

• 42:30 Why everyone should be running

• 45:00 Zone 2 vs. high intensity: which should you choose?

• 48:45 Tactical Games and mountain picnics

• 59:00 The ultimate swimming heebie jeebies